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arrwheader 09-25-2018 09:08 PM

We’re giving up 500 yards a game on D yet still winning but Veach knows this is ridiculous and that Mahomes is playing out of this world. He has to be all in for fixing this defense and taking advantage of the current situation.

A late 1st is nothing compared to what we would get for Earl this year and the next few years to come.

The problem is cash but like others have said it’s doable if you want to make it work. It does worry me about future contracts for other players that need paying.

Hoover 09-25-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 13763470)
We’re giving up 500 yards a game on D yet still winning but Veach knows this is ridiculous and that Mahomes is playing out of this world. He has to be all in for fixing this defense and taking advantage of the current situation.

A late 1st is nothing compared to what we would get for Earl this year and the next few years to come.

The problem is cash but like others have said it’s doable if you want to make it work. It does worry me about future contracts for other players that need paying.

I can think of two members of the 30th ranked defense in the NFL that would help veach find some cash. The question for Veach is, does he want to touch the Houston contract now, which would make it more difficult for the team to move on from in the off season.

I think Berry is the guy who needs to get this deal done.

Simply Red 09-25-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13763478)

I think Berry is the guy who needs to get this deal done.

If you're suggesting a restructure - I don't see that happening.

BlackOp 09-25-2018 09:16 PM

Hypothetically speaking...if KC does deal a late 1st (32nd :D) that pick makes almost $10 mil over 4 years. So shave $2.5 mill off Earls yearly salary total...just sayin.

arrwheader 09-25-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13763478)
I can think of two members of the 30th ranked defense in the NFL that would help veach find some cash. The question for Veach is, does he want to touch the Houston contract now, which would make it more difficult for the team to move on from in the off season.

I think Berry is the guy who needs to get this deal done.



True they will undoubtedly move on from players at the end of the season saving some money as well. I think they do this and they are stupid if they don’t.

Seahawks need to make it go through as well they are even dumber if they don’t.

I could legit see this working out and the rumors be true they are talking contract now. I think most of us will undoubtedly cringe though when we hear the number if it happens.

bigjosh 09-25-2018 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13763478)
I can think of two members of the 30th ranked defense in the NFL that would help veach find some cash. The question for Veach is, does he want to touch the Houston contract now, which would make it more difficult for the team to move on from in the off season.

I think Berry is the guy who needs to get this deal done.



We are up to 30th? #gettingbetter amiright?

CoMoChief 09-25-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13763438)
Like others have said, we don’t need a top defense or for that matter a average defense, we just need to stop a couple of more drives per game than we are currently doing. Give us a little more wiggle room. Thomas could stop a drive himself a couple of times a game.

There are going to be games where the defense will have to bail out the offense. That's just the way it is in this league. The guys playing it are just too good. You have 11 guys lining up on the other side trying just as hard to beat you, the more tape they get on Mahomes and the Chiefs O, the harder it's going to get, the more he's going to be tested, the more teams will send players blitzing after him etc. Because if it doesn't, then we're looking at a Dan Marino 1984 level once in a lifetime historic performance before our very own eyes. I only compare it to Marino and not Manning's '13 season because Marino did it during his 2nd year in the league, like Mahomes. Manning was in his 15th yr of his HoF career. It's just remarkable what Mahomes has done so far.

This offense will come back down to earth, even if it's only a little. When teams start getting more film on the Chiefs, they'll find tendencies and patterns and teams will start to sniff stuff out more, and/or find other ways to confuse Mahomes. It's remarkable what he's done so far, this is video game kind of shit stats he's putting up. But he doesn't know what he doesn't know. It's going to get bad at times, he's going to get banged up, bad OL play, the weather's gonna get bad/cold, he's going to have bad games, we just haven't seen it yet.

One thing's for certain. This team/fanbase can not withstand another epic playoff collapse because of the failures of the defense.

This team needs to beat other teams in all phases of the game. Right now, yes they're one of the best 3rd down defenses and they tighten their sphincters a little when opposing teams are within 10, but they can't be counted on....ever.

Mahomes is off to a historic start, and has exceeded expectations by miles. Chiefs probably didn't see this coming either. If the Chiefs think their window is right now, then this is the type of move you make, esp when you have some draft capital to work with and your current safety is injured with an unknown return date.

This team/fanbase can not withstand another epic playoff collapse because of the failures of the defense. This signing makes this team immediately better for the next 2-3 yrs. A signing like this would tell the Chiefs players that FO is ****ing serious about a SB, it will motivate players to work hard. The offense smells blood in the water, they understand what is happening.

I understand Chiefs won't get better long term on D unless they start hitting on some of their top defensive picks, and trading top picks doesn't help. But the front office needs to make this move now. The window is now. This is the type of signing that you do to get you over a hump. This is the Johnny Cueto signing.

And FWIW, this would bring Veach out of the doghouse for me after his ****ing shitty ass draft w/ Speaks and O'Daniel.

jaa1025 09-25-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13763296)
The guy that broke the Watkins deal spot on just told me it could be true


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Told it could actually be true. Chiefs have been seeking a safety upgrade all offseason.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1044761483370999810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Here's the original tweet about ET to KC
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Right now the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> are working on a contract for Earl Thomas, a source tells me they are close, very close. The reports of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> somewhat interested is really a contract negotiation. We will have an answer by the end of the week, I’m told he could play as soon as game 5!</p>&mdash; CHIEFS365 @CHIEFS #Chiefskingdom TO THE SB (@Chiefs365Com) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs365Com/status/1044751725796634625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That dude has the worst spelling I've ever seen for an "editor". I'm one of the last people that should comment on spelling and grimmer on socials but it's awful. Not buying this at all, unfortunately.

Mother****erJones 09-25-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13763495)
That dude has the worst spelling I've ever seen for an "editor". I'm one of the last people that should comment on spelling and grimmer on socials but it's awful. Not buying this at all, unfortunately.

For me, it’s abojt the guy that responded to me. He was the one with the Sammy deal down to the money and years.

Mr. Arrowhead 09-25-2018 09:40 PM

Isnt Chiefs365 Nick Athan lmao

Oregon chief 09-25-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13763498)
For me, it’s abojt the guy that responded to me. He was the one with the Sammy deal down to the money and years.

Seems like people taking guesses that would make sense for a deal and the say ‘source’ if they’re right it equals tons of new followers. I only trust the main sources these days. They’re pretty quick anyway

Simply Red 09-25-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 13763500)
Isnt Chiefs365 Nick Athan lmao

no - ChiefsInsider

Naptown Chief 09-25-2018 09:57 PM

Did this piece of shit sign yet?

Sofa King 09-25-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13763511)
Did this piece of shit sign yet?

Nope. Give it up. Let this thread die.

Naptown Chief 09-25-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13763517)
Nope. Give it up. Let this thread die.

Asshole!


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