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Lex Luthor 12-28-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 11982360)
Actually Lex, (And I had to go back and read and watch before I was certain), he entered the game as a replacement for CR Tony Armas who got hurt, and while tracking a long fly ball off Bobby Grich, the ball hit the palm of his glove as he hit the CF wall and it popped out of his glove and over the wall for a 2 run HR.

He was going to be scapegoated for the series.


Well damn, you are correct. I guess I remembered Henderson leaping up and ATTEMPTING to make a great play, and I forgot the part about him not actually making the play at all. Come to think of it, that was part of the drama, wasn't it? Dave Henderson's redemption by hitting the game winning home run.

30 years from now I'll probably be telling people how vividly I remember the Royals winning the 2014 World Series on Alex Gordon's inside-the-park home run in game 7.

TomBarndtsTwin 12-29-2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11981531)
that means it's true though in that scenario. And to me, that IS an insulting offer. I'd have started at 4/$70

More than likely, 4 for $60 was the Royals opening offer. A little above the top contracts offered to Meche and Guillen at $55 mil. A little low, but not insulting and gives him the largest contract in Royals history.

I think the Royals would be willing to go 4 for $70 mil, but that would probably be the ending point. They're looking to lock up some younger guys in the next couple years and you don't invest the kind of money Gordo's agent is wanting in a player in their 30's, whose value is very tied up in his defense. Range and speed will decline with age.


That being said, with the plethora of second tier OF options available at cheaper rates, wouldn't shock me if Gordo ended up back in KC at 4 for 70 . . . .

Anyong Bluth 12-29-2015 12:17 AM

Yankees

/2015 Royals wannabes

Prison Bitch 12-29-2015 01:01 AM

When DM took over, what if he said "within 10 years I'll have won a World Series, gone to another one, and had the Yankees copying my methods"


The press room would've erupted in laughter.

Lex Luthor 12-29-2015 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11984491)
When DM took over, what if he said "within 10 years I'll have won a World Series, gone to another one, and had the Yankees copying my methods"


The press room would've erupted in laughter.

That puts Dayton Moore's accomplishments in perspective, doesn't it?

That is why I won't complain no matter what happens with Alex Gordon. GMDM seems to know what the hell he's doing. Any Royals fan who panics now and says bullshit like "The Royals are just cheap bastards" and "David Glass just wants to jerk off on piles of our money" has not been paying attention the last 5 years.

Sure-Oz 12-29-2015 08:45 AM

@royalsclubhouse: Alex Gordon, to Lincoln Journal Star, after being asked about Heyman's claim last week that there was no chance of KC contract. "No truth."

BigCatDaddy 12-29-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11984663)
@royalsclubhouse: Alex Gordon, to Lincoln Journal Star, after being asked about Heyman's claim last week that there was no chance of KC contract. "No truth."

Maybe but not sure that is the time or place to say otherwise.

Lex Luthor 12-29-2015 10:44 AM

It sounds like Alex Gordon wasn't insulted by the Royals initial offer after all.

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Alex Gordon says "no truth" to reports the Royals have "no chance" to sign him as things stand

Alex Gordon appeared at a recent event in Omaha to provide baseball instruction to children and took time to comment there was "no truth" to recent reports there was "no chance" he would re-sign with the Royals as things currently stood. According to the Lincoln-Journal Star, Gordon said the experience was "frustrating and exciting", adding:

"I hope to sign sooner than later, but this will all work out for the best,"

Talking with the Omaha World-Herald, Gordon said the Royals were "still in the mix", adding.

"I know what’s going on behind the scenes, and I’m dealing with it the best I can." Gordon said the free-agent experience hasn’t been nerve-racking but added the timeline has been a little surprising.

"I thought it would have been done by now," he said, "but I’m a pretty laid-back guy, so I’m not letting it stress me out."

Gordon said he has enjoyed his time in Kansas City, but indicated to the Lincoln Journal-Star it was his agent, Casey Close, who was leading negotiations.

"We had so much fun, and to be around to see a team grow like Kansas City did and win the World Series was unbelievable," he said.

"Right now I'm unemployed and I pay an agent 4 percent to make the calls, take the calls and let me know what's going on," said Gordon, considered one of the top-producing outfielders in the major leagues and certainly among the elite defensively.

Gordon has been reportedly been low-balled by the Royals, with some believing the offer to be as low as four years, $50 million. Gordon had reportedly been seeking a five year, $100 million deal, leaving a wide gap in negotiations. The Giants, Cardinals, Angels, Orioles, and White Sox were said to be pursuing him, although indications are the Giants, Cardinals, and Angels have all dropped out of the running.

Alex Gordon is coming off his third consecutive All-Star season in which he hit .271/.377/.432 in 422 plate appearances. By WAR, he is coming off the best five-year stretch in Royals history outside of George Brett. He is also coming off a major groin injury and will turn 32 in February.
http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/12/...e-no-chance-to

Coach 12-29-2015 11:39 AM

I figured that's the case.

This Heyman individual needs to be neg repped/trolled into submission.

Prison Bitch 12-29-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 11984965)
I figured that's the case.

This Heyman individual needs to be neg repped/trolled into submission.

Why? How would you know who's telling the truth?

Coach 12-29-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11984975)
Why? How would you know who's telling the truth?

I would trust the player/agent than a uninformed reporter who has no well established connections in Kansas City. Especially if it's Alex Gordon.

The problem is, how can one identify how much the market is for Gordon if Upton and Cespedes are still on the market? The longer those two guys who are out there, I have to think it hurts Gordon's value on the market.

Plus, you do remember Michael Bourn? He had to settle for 4/$48M and Bourn was a year younger than Alex when QO-tagged.

I think Alex will find something between 4 years $80 with a 5th year option (you know how much GMDM loves those options), in my opinion.

Anyong Bluth 12-29-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11984575)
That puts Dayton Moore's accomplishments in perspective, doesn't it?

That is why I won't complain no matter what happens with Alex Gordon. GMDM seems to know what the hell he's doing. Any Royals fan who panics now and says bullshit like "The Royals are just cheap bastards" and "David Glass just wants to jerk off on piles of our money" has not been paying attention the last 5 years.

It may suck and be a blow to the team to lose Alex, but circumstances are what they are, the market and TV deal hamstrings them for now. Ultimately, as you said - they've earned the right to steer the ship and chart the waters based upon doing something NOBODY expected to be the results.
Back to back WS is a lot harder than even getting on a hot streak and winning one. That dictates true talent and not simply dumb luck.

Anyong Bluth 12-29-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11984663)
@royalsclubhouse: Alex Gordon, to Lincoln Journal Star, after being asked about Heyman's claim last week that there was no chance of KC contract. "No truth."

I honestly don't buy a word about the leaked reports. No news is simply no news. Nobody is chomping at the bit to sign him at some grossly overpriced contract.

It could still happen, but it is just as likely that the waters have cooled a bit and teams have rethought how much and how long they want to offer him.

Saul Good 12-29-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 11985035)
I would trust the player/agent than a uninformed reporter who has no well established connections in Kansas City. Especially if it's Alex Gordon.

The problem is, how can one identify how much the market is for Gordon if Upton and Cespedes are still on the market? The longer those two guys who are out there, I have to think it hurts Gordon's value on the market.

Plus, you do remember Michael Bourn? He had to settle for 4/$48M and Bourn was a year younger than Alex when QO-tagged.

I think Alex will find something between 4 years $80 with a 5th year option (you know how much GMDM loves those options), in my opinion.

If Gordon had an offer of 4/80 with a 5th year option, I think he'd have signed it by now. My best guess at this point is that he's back next year with something along the lines of a 4/60 deal and a 5th year club option of $20m and a $5m payout if we decline it.

mr. tegu 12-29-2015 04:42 PM

I just heard on 610 that they will be playing the radio broadcast of each postseason game in a row starting soon. I didn't catch exactly what day and time it would start though.


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