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splatbass 08-31-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9929010)
Lets look at all QB's that win a superbowl. Then lets look at those guys versus all 1st roundpicks.

Next lets look at the rest of the draft QB's and the Superbowls they have won, and compare them to all the rest of the QB's drafted 2nd and higher.

Which group is going to be a shittier group? Which group has a higher PERCENTAGE of super bowl winners selected?

Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


God damn.

If you go by first round QBs that have been successful vs. first round QBs that haven't over the last ten years you will see that the percentage of losers is much higher than the percentage of successful ones - and I'm not even talking SB here, I'm talking any kind of success at all - playoffs, etc.

Face it, no one but the desperate Bills thought there was a QB worth a first round pick this year. Reaching to take one in the first that doesn't deserve to be there won't magically make them a winning QB.

splatbass 08-31-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9929022)
Thank you. I'm just not going through this shit again.

In other words, "lalalalalala, I can't hear you, lalalalalala".

hometeam 08-31-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9929026)
If you go by first round QBs that have been successful vs. first round QBs that haven't over the last ten years you will see that the percentage of losers is much higher than the percentage of successful ones - and I'm not even talking SB here, I'm talking any kind of success at all - playoffs, etc.

Face it, no one but the desperate Bills thought there was a QB worth a first round pick this year. Reaching to take one in the first that doesn't deserve to be there won't magically make them a winning QB.


And do you not get that if you DO NOT have a first round QB the chances that they don't do shit is MUCH MUCH HIGHER like almost certainly ?

So just because your chance for a big hit is something like 35-40% you shouldn't go for that. You would rather look at guys who have a .1 % chance to hit?

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9929034)
In other words, "lalalalalala, I can't hear you, lalalalalala".

I'm old and tired, so yeah; that'll work.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9929010)
Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


God damn.

Phenomenally higher? Uh, no.

There have been 106 QB's taken in Round One since 1967. Fifteen have won Super Bowls, or 14%.

There have been 55 QB's taken in Round Two since 1967. Three have won a Super Bowl, or 5%.

I don't consider 9% to be a "phenomenal" difference.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9929022)
Thank you. I'm just not going through this shit again.

That's because you're ****ing stupid and don't have any facts to back up your bullshit.

If there's someone that knows LESS about the NFL in forum, I'd be shocked, although you and Tattoo are neck in neck.

Setsuna 08-31-2013 02:17 PM

Here we go Geno! Here we go! Hoohoo!

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9929038)
And do you not get that if you DO NOT have a first round QB the chances that they don't do shit is MUCH MUCH HIGHER like almost certainly ?

So just because your chance for a big hit is something like 35-40% you shouldn't go for that. You would rather look at guys who have a .1 % chance to hit?

Your percentages are way off.

Did you pull them out of your ass or SDH's?

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9929077)
Here we go Geno! Here we go! Hoohoo!

Choke on a dick

splatbass 08-31-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9929077)
Here we go Geno! Here we go! Hoohoo!

It will be sad watching Geno fail, but he is not NFL ready and shouldn't start at this point even on a good team. Starting on a bad team will destroy what chance he has of becoming an NFL QB. Naming him starter at this point is a death sentence for his career.

Not that they have much choice when the only other option is buttfumble.

hometeam 08-31-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9929071)
Phenomenally higher? Uh, no.

There have been 106 QB's taken in Round One since 1967. Fifteen have won Super Bowls, or 14%.

There have been 55 QB's taken in Round Two since 1967. Three have won a Super Bowl, or 5%.

I don't consider 9% to be a "phenomenal" difference.


I am comparing Round 1 to round 2+. The argument here is first round or not, not first round or 2nd round.

hometeam 08-31-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9929078)
Your percentages are way off.

Did you pull them out of your ass or SDH's?

Just guesstimating the current crop of 1st rounders in the NFL as good QB's and POTENTIAL super bowl winners, not just guys who have already won a bowl.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9929075)
That's because you're ****ing stupid and don't have any facts to back up your bullshit.

If there's someone that knows LESS about the NFL in forum, I'd be shocked, although you and Tattoo are neck in neck.

Here comes Dane-y singin' oldies-goldies; be-bop-a-lula baby what I say!

:shake::facepalm:

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9930278)
Here comes Dane-y singin' oldies-goldies; be-bop-a-lula baby what I say!

:shake::facepalm:

They're "Golden Oldies" for a reason, nimrod.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9930341)
They're "Golden Oldies" for a reason, nimrod.

:facepalm:


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