ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries [signed by Chiefs]

Here's the thing with this Humphries situation; the Chiefs have absolutely no commitment to him whatsoever. He was signed out of pure desperation. They were trying to avoid having to move Thuney to LT, probably out of fear of how the rest of the line would respond and obviously in particular how Caliendo would perform. Those fears have been put to rest.

Since we've seen the entire offense level up and literally get better with each passing game Thuney is at LT, I can't see a chance in living hell they are suddenly going to switch it up in the playoffs when Mahomes will have played all of one half with Humphries at LT. Could he be fine doing so? Absolutely, he's Pat. However, Thuney has proven he can handle the job and the rest of the line has made it work with him over there, and Pat looks more comfortable than he has in quite some time.

I think there's literally zero chance Humphries is starting in the playoffs, but I do think they'll try to keep him for next year. That makes the most sense the way things stand now.

If I was a betting man, this would absolutely be my bet. Something works well enough, the offense clearly improves as a result...I don't think they change that that quickly. Next year, yep, seems possible

golfindude

12-28-2024 11:25 AM

If Hump is healthy, he'll play some in playoffs, depending on how he looks thru Denver game. Splitting playing time between the 3 would be good.

Hoover

12-28-2024 11:31 AM

I feel like VAChief has bought some DJ Humphries stock or something. Even if he plays vs Denver, which I don't think is a sure thing, I don't see him being the starter in the playoffs.

Coogs

12-28-2024 12:00 PM

I really don't know what we are going to do. And I have not watched every single offensive play to know for sure how much help Thuney is getting over at LT. But the narrative around here by some posters leads one to believe that he is getting help nearly every play. The highlight package on Netflix doesn't seem to support that narrative.

If we go with Humphries, fine. But Thuney appears to be up to the task going forward, and if it ain't broke...

Dunerdr

12-28-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17880059)

I’ve been part of this. It’s not every play but he gets significantly more help that Kingsley got. Tight ends, backs, rolling pockets and quick passing.

I’m good either way but if DJ looks comes back like ominihu and is 80% of himself that’s an upgrade at left tackle and left guard. I trust the staff to make the right call. But I dont understand the absolute unwillingness to a knowledgeable that dj even knocking the rust off should be an upgrade. He was getting better as he played before and came in completely cold. He was an upgrade to morris off of the surgery table.

Coogs

12-28-2024 12:23 PM

It would be interesting to know how many plays Thuney had help on vs the Steelers. The highlight package would suggest it would be a number less than 4. And even the play he got a bit of help from Hunt, it is apparent he did not need any. That play was the TD catch by Kelce.

Bl00dyBizkitz

12-28-2024 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17880072)

If he had come back earlier and we had evidence in a real game that he knocked the rust off, I'd be on board for it. Sorry, I dont really count the Broncos game when there's no stakes and we aren't running our typical offense with Mahomes under center. It's just not the same.

I really wanted him back for the Texans/Steelers gauntlet and he just wasn't.

chiefzilla1501

12-28-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17880059)

I don't know that it's as much about chip help (wanya did too and still sucked). But mahomes being elite the past few weeks getting the ball out very fast helps a ton. We can't do that with wanya because the pocket gets pushed back so quickly. But could a halfway decent OT hold?

Because jawaan Taylor has also been much much better of late too. And that feels to me more about mahomes helping the RT versus the LT doing that.

VAChief

12-28-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17880040)

I feel like VAChief has bought some DJ Humphries stock or something. Even if he plays vs Denver, which I don't think is a sure thing, I don't see him being the starter in the playoffs.

No stock and hardly the only one suggesting that IF DJ is healthy it shouldn’t surprise anyone that Andy might prefer to roll with two all season radials on the left side than two spare tires.

Either way we are much better suited for a playoff run than 3 weeks ago.

UChieffyBugger

12-28-2024 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17880111)

If DJ is healthy he should play, period. Two games with Joe getting protected like crazy should not dictate who should play moving forward. If DJ plays vs the Donks and gets through that game fine then that's good enough for me.

Coogs

12-28-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17880318)

But is Thuney getting protected like crazy? The highlight video of 16 plays says no.

DaFace

12-28-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17880333)

But is Thuney getting protected like crazy? The highlight video of 16 plays says no.

Yes.

https://mnchiefsfan.substack.com/p/j...aliendo-vs-the

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Is it worth keeping Thuney at LT knowing for certain it’s a marked downgrade at LG?

Well, the answer to question one really informs this. Given that Thuney has been passable but not particularly good in pass protection at LT (again, not an insult, but a tremendous accomplishment!), it’s an easy answer… Unless the alternative is TERRIBLE play at LT (which is what Morris had regressed before a nice couple of series at RT, which was good to see), it’s not worth it to keep Thuney there given how much it downgrades the LG spot.

In other words, the only way it makes sense to keep playing Thuney at LT is if they don’t believe Humphries can be even a slightly below average pass protector. He was better than that in Arizona last year, so I assume the hope is he can be that in KC. In which case, it makes al the sense in the world to get Humphries out there as soon as he’s healthy and get Thuney back to LG.

I never expected Thuney to be able to perform even passably at LT. The fact that he’s done that (and Caliendo has been able to fill in at LG) should be celebrated. But once Reid has any other palatable option, they should go that route and let Thuney get back to playing at an All Pro level in the spot he’s done it for years. Here’s hoping Humphries becomes that palatable option.

Coogs

12-28-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17880345)

Yes.

https://mnchiefsfan.substack.com/p/j...aliendo-vs-the

This was from the 24th of December. Christmas is on the 25th.

DaFace

12-28-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17880352)

This was from the 24th of December. Christmas is on the 25th.

You expected him to rewrite the same article again on Christmas? He reiterated the take on yesterday's podcast.

DaFace

12-28-2024 03:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From weeks 15-17, Caliendo has been the lowest graded left guard in the league and the 2nd lowest guard. <a href="https://t.co/YD8dU4YBoj">pic.twitter.com/YD8dU4YBoj</a></p>— Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1872692526186217889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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