LOL

Didn't we just get done bitching about the Chiefs having a mediocre record?

Some people feel better about themselves and the team when they go 7-9 but are in "contention" the whole year. I hate that shit, I don't wanna sneak in the playoffs and get pelted.

You know what the worst thing that happened to this franchise is? The Steelers a couple years ago that actually won the bowl as a 6 seed....now the Chiefs hold onto it like they can do it even though it's an extreme long shot.

who's "we"? If the talent is a 7-9 team...then a solid coach gets them there. A bad coach ensures they underperform. A great coach squeezes them to 8-8 or 9-7.

I know the point was delicate, Mr. Mecca. Perhaps too much so. Let me try again.

Let's say you're a tour guide and you don't get paid until the tour is over. So you take your group downtown to see the fancy buildings. Then, as you're discussing the finer points of neo-classical architecture, you notice that one of the buildings is collapsing and about to fall on your customers. Realizing that if it does so, your money will be buried under 5000 tons of brick and steel and you'll be spending the night giving statements at the police station and picking body parts off your suit.

Do you take an action? Even more to the point, do you come out the next day and say ... you know, we knew all along that was a possibility and decided to let them stand there anyhow.

FAX

That team....doesn't have 7-9 talent......it has 4-12 5-11 talent.

It's irrelevant, anyway. This team doesn't have the talent to win 7 games. They are what they are.

Like I said though...what do you expect them to do? Numerous teams go into years fully knowing they may be bad that year and maybe even the next couple of years.

[QUOTE=Mecca]Some people feel better about themselves and the team when they go 7-9 but are in "contention" the whole year. I hate that shit, I don't wanna sneak in the playoffs and get pelted.

You know what the worst thing that happened to this franchise is? The Steelers a couple years ago that actually won the bowl as a 6 seed....now the Chiefs hold onto it like they can do it even though it's an extreme long shot.[/QUOTED]

While I might agree with your larger point...this thread is about why Herm doesn't deserve another year. If this team's talent could yield a 7-9 record (regardless of whether that medicore sh** pisses you off or not), than a coach that can't get it there should be canned.

I don't think Herm is a very good coach either, but at the same time I don't think this team would be any good even with a great coach.

If I took this job, and if I'm spewing that I am wanting to do a rebuilding mode, then I damn well better do it.

And rebuilding isn't exactly having all of your 30 year old guys as your starting offensive linemen, along with a 34 year old career back-up Caption Checkdown and his wobbly duck. I should also point out that for whatever reason, Herm had Holmes over Kolby.

Sorry, his theory isn't right, especially when I just stated the obvious.

Well...on the former point we agree...on the latter, we disagree. I don't think the talent on this team is close to championship level at all...but I don't believe their talent should yield a 4-12 record...especially in this division.

Well he's dealing with Carl Peterson who doesn't want to rebuild at all.....this team tried to do a halfass rebuild because Peterson doesn't want a full one...

And this is what we got....

Disagree. Buffalo was predicted to finish 4th in their conference, but Juaron did a hell of a job there, despite with the QB issues.

I can think of at least 3 games that the Chiefs COULD have won the game, have it not been for piss-poor coaching.

The Broncos game @ Arrowhead. Jesus, getting whipped by their JV squad was a piss-poor preperation by the coaching staff.

The Colts game @ Indy. Yes, I know the Colts weren't 100% in all areas, and we caught them when Manning was struggling terribly. But it was 10-10 and the game was there for the taking.

The Raiders game @ Arrowhead. Need I say more?

I can't believe how much younger we're getting.
Croyle-YOUNG
Johnson YOUNG Smith YOUNG
FB YOUNG probably a new YOUNG one
WR-YOUNG Bowe
WR-YOUNG FA or DRAFT?
TE-Gonzo
LT-YOUNG 1st round
LG-MIDDLE AGED FA
C-OLD AS DIRT
RG-Waters
RT-middled aged
DE-YOUNG Allen
DT-YOUNG TURK
DT-YOUNG TANK
DE-YOUNG HALI
OLB-YOUNG JOHNSON
MLB-Mid Aged
OLB-Edwards OLD
FS-YOUNG Page
SS-YOUNG Pollard
CB-Law/Surtain OLD
CB-YOUNG Brack?
P-YOUNG Colquitt
K-YOUNG Rayner? Medlock? FA?
LS-Darche Younger than gammon
Could be our starters next season?

Buffalo has more talent than we do........even with their 15 guys on IR. They have a lot more when their team is healthy, just no one really notices.