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RedThat 10-15-2008 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5117872)
I'm sorry?

Dick developed players?

Name 5.
Most of that offense was put together with a bunch of guys who were backups on other teams and they excelled when they came here to play for Vermeil.

Casey Wiegmann developed under Vermeil.

Dante Hall developed under Vermeil.

Trent Green developed under Vermeil.

Brian Waters developed under Vermeil.

Priest Holmes developed under Vermeil.

Rausch 10-15-2008 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman
I'm sorry?

Dick developed players?

Name 5.
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5117887)
Dexter McCleon
Sammie Parker
Ryan Simms
Glen Cadrez
William Bartee
Ass cancer to you. Ass cancer and every bored Jehova's Witness in your area...

milkman 10-15-2008 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5117899)
Green was a better player in KC, Waters, Kennison was thought of as a lost cause, Hall, Allen, Colquitt.
Green was playing some good football for a bad "Skin team, which is the reason that Martz brought him to the Rams.

He was having a monster preseason before Harrison took out his knees, and looked great every time he got a chance in STL. after he came back from the injury.

He was already developed when he came to KC.
The rest of the offense had to catch up to him.

Developing a punter?

LMAO

Brock 10-15-2008 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5117918)
Most of that offense was put together with a bunch of guys who were backups on other teams and they excelled when they came here to play for Vermeil.

Casey Wiegmann developed under Vermeil.

Dante Hall developed under Vermeil.

Trent Green developed under Vermeil.

Brian Waters developed under Vermeil.

Priest Holmes developed under Vermeil.
That isn't development.

Reerun_KC 10-15-2008 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5117921)
Ass cancer to you. Ass cancer and every bored Jehova's Witness in your area...
What? I dont get it? ROFL

Reerun_KC 10-15-2008 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5117927)
That isn't development.
okay I give, then what is it?

FringeNC 10-15-2008 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5117927)
That isn't development.
The fact that the whole was bigger than the sum of the parts is what coaching is all about.

milkman 10-15-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5117918)
Most of that offense was put together with a bunch of guys who were backups on other teams and they excelled when they came here to play for Vermeil.

Casey Wiegmann developed under Vermeil.

Dante Hall developed under Vermeil.

Trent Green developed under Vermeil.

Brian Waters developed under Vermeil.

Priest Holmes developed under Vermeil.
I don't believe that you can say that Green and Priest developed under Dick.

Martz developed Green in Washington, and the Chiefs (and Dick, by extension] reaped the rewards when he finally got his cahnce to start.

Priest had already had a couple of good seasons in an offense that he was a poor fit for, and Saunders offense just utilized his talent better.

Brock 10-15-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5117933)
okay I give, then what is it?
That's taking veteran players that fit and plugging them into a designed offense.

Brock 10-15-2008 10:09 AM
I'm surprised he didn't try to give Vermeil credit for "developing" Willie Roaf.

milkman 10-15-2008 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5117934)
The fact that the whole was bigger than the sum of the parts is what coaching is all about.
That's an observation I can agree with.

To bad the whole (both offense and defense) weren't.

milkman 10-15-2008 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5117943)
That's taking veteran players that fit and plugging them into a designed offense.
Exactly.

Brock 10-15-2008 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5117934)
The fact that the whole was bigger than the sum of the parts is what coaching is all about.
Too bad the sum of the parts only added up to half a team.

Chiefnj2 10-15-2008 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5117922)

Developing a punter?

LMAO
You bet your ass - developing a punter. Without that punter this team may have been winless last year and this year. He's the glue in this sad organization.

RedThat 10-15-2008 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5117939)
I don't believe that you can say that Green and Priest developed under Dick.

Martz developed Green in Washington, and the Chiefs (and Dick, by extension] reaped the rewards when he finally got his cahnce to start.

Priest had already had a couple of good seasons in an offense that he was a poor fit for, and Saunders offense just utilized his talent better.
So a player basically has to have zero successful seasons, basically start all from scratch with nothing, and work under that same head coach for years in order for a developmental process to take place?


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