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Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198564)

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5304187)

ditto...except for the Chan thing.

What is it you don't like?...

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5303917)

Marty Schottenheimer - GM
Herm Edwards - HC
Chan Gailey - OC
Gunther Cunningham - DC
KCJohnny - President of Football Operations :D

May not please this crowd, but probably not far from possible. Would definitely fill One Arrowhead Drive on Sundays.

GO CHIEFS!
:arrow:

You're serious, aren't you?
I mean...you really mean this?

Wow.

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5304025)

Yeah, but we didn't have to be.

Our defensive coaches could teach players to tackle WITH THEIR ARMS. WRAP UP and foget this power-shoulder-ESPN-highlight-woo-hit-bull$#it.

You can do that. You tell the next guy in the secondary who pulls a "Wesley whiff" that he's sitting the following week. You hit and wrap up.

Short story is we play sloppy, we keep playing sloppy, and we've lost games we could have and should have won. Even with this rebuild rookie-infused roster.

We underachieved HUGE...

With the beheading of Marie "Peterson" Antoinette the age of failure (and pride despite incompetence) is over...

of course we underachieve. that's what we do. we've done it as long as I can remember. I literally can't remember a year of being a chiefs fan that I DIDN'T make some sort of comment about our shoddy tackling.

underachieving is part of the problem. you underachieve because of shitty coaching. look, I like gun too. but his rhetoric hasn't worked this second time around. it's rather obvious that his defenses worked GREAT when the rules for DB/WR contact were more lax (and hasty/carter could MAUL WRs) and he had a defense with guys like neil smith and DT. he needs a talent-laden defense. problem is, with all of the potential 'talent' we've drafted in the first few rounds, NONE of them have really developed. derrick johnson, all of the DTs, etc. that goes down to coaching. I'm not sure peterson ALONE is to blame. will it help? **** yes. but a lot more people have to go. the job isn't done.

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Bill Cowher or Spag
OC- Chan Gailey or Price
DC- Romeo Crennell or Mike Nolan

Toss-up between Reggie McKenzie and John Schneider for GM. I'll go with John Schneider since he's younger, has a connection to the Chiefs (was Dir. of Pro Personnel 1997-1999) and because he assists Ted Thompson with regards to free agency and the draft whereas McKenzie's focus is on scouting pro leagues (NFL, NFL Europe (gone), AFL (gone), CFL, etc.).

For head coach without a doubt Steve Spagnuolo.

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Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5302605)

HC

1. Stoops

:spock:

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5302741)

Spag comes from Coughlin's tree, and that is EXACTLY his philosophy

:doh!:

Spagnuolo does NOT come from Coughlin's tree.

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5303917)

:stupid:

I want a GM that is a personnel guy on a consistent winner. Schneider and DeCosta fit that bill, IMO. Dominick from Tampa is another name that is getting thrown out there but my impression is that Tampa's talent is "meh".

As for coach, I don't have a strong opinion. I want the new GM to do his homework and pick who they think is the best choice.

For a coaching dark horse, if DeCosta is hired, I wonder if he would go after Jim Harbaugh?

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5303917)

How would constantly winning 2-3 games a year fill Arrowhead? It isn't working this year. :shrug:

Doug Whaley -- GM
Steve Spagnuolo -- HC

Those are two guys from unbelievably successful programs.

Spagnuolo from the Eagles/Giants and those aggressive attack defenses (and presumably he can take an offensive mind from those clubs as well, as both can put points on the board).

The Steelers have always known when to let a guy go and how to replace that guy, that's Whaley's department, IMO.

What's really sad? KCJ is serious about the first four ...

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5303917)

Still off the meds, eh?

MM
~~:shake:

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5303975)

I'd keep Chan. Outside of that I'm all for you and Clark sitting down over lunch to discuss a winning front office...

works for me ... Gailey and Cowher have worked together before. :)

President - Scott Pioli
General Manager - Chris Polian
Head Coach - Bill Cowher
offensive coordinator - Chan Gailey
defensive coordinator - Mike Singletary

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5304433)

I could live with that group.

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5304011)

here, disagree with this:

last playoff win: 1993

that's fifteen years. I'm 25 years old. I was ten years old the last playoff win--****, aren't you younger than me? I can't recall. doesn't matter.

I'll be the first person to be optimistic if THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT. have you WATCHED the chiefs lately? we're HORRIBLE.

it has nothing to do with being a 'negative nancy.' it has EVERYTHING to do with people holding onto the adages of a by-gone era. and it's gone. if you want to have positive hopes, PLEASE have a REASON to have positive hopes.

I remember a very specific time when I was younger that my dad was like this--and I didn't understand it then, but I do perfectly now.

the chiefs were playing the giants in the meadowlands. we were down big in the second quarter. he left the room in disgust and went to go mow the lawn. before he left, though, we had an argument. I pounded my fists like the preteen douche I was and said 'the chiefs can win! they can come back!' completely optimistic that the chiefs could overcome all odds and win a meaningless game.

my dad was realistic--he said 'there's no way' and went about his day

I'm like that these days. SOME of you still believe. it's like believing in santa claus--he's still coming for some of you. the rest of us in realism land have no delusions about this team.

I remember crying my eyes out after the 1995 playoff loss to the colts. I remember going on my first cussing tirade after the 1997 playoff loss to the broncos.

I, for one, and SICK TO ****ING DEATH of putting up with 'not quite good enough'--it's ALL this ****ing organization feeds to us. if you want to be spoon-fed bullshit? that's fine with me. I'm all for putting their ****ing heads under the guillotine and MAYBE building a team that's in it for the long haul.

I'm 35 and I like watching the events unfold. I don't like to watch them lose, but I won't sulk very long about it when they do. We haven't won a playoff in 15 years, but we've been in the playoffs fairly regularly until recent.

Last years sucked balls but this year I saw hope, hope that carl/clark/herm were about to try something different. They did, they did START something different. Carl obviously had to be the first headpiece to leave, because it was so far off from what he wants to do, a philosophy relying more heavily on free agents. One that worked for him for a long time too.

I really think Herm got the ball rolling on this change, sold the idea to clark (which in turn got carl out of here) he has the player's attention, and the players are learning/improving. We aren't watching the same game if you are going to tell me you can't see some steady improvements with several players on both sides of the ball. We've come close to winning some big games against some pretty good teams with mostly rookies, and rookies that weren't even our starting rookies at the begining of the season in some cases.

Yes that is why I say I don't think Herm is a bad coach.

I've seen him make some mistakes on the sideline, and it pisses me off too. But I think he stays unless it becomes a deal breaker for the new GM. If that happens, I won't be off sulking, I'll be very interested and tuned in to find out who the new coach will be.

But the bottom line is, I don't have a single damn thing to say about who it is, the new GM or if a new coach comes in. some of the arguing here is downright ignorant.

BTW - I contest your self promoted title as "realist" - I believe I'm the one being a realist and you are being a Meccamist.

GM= Scott Pioli
Head Coach= Josh McDaniels

and I'll go a step further and say for defensive coordinator (assuming he is fired by Cleveland) I want Romeo Crennel

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Originally Posted by PriestMVP31 (Post 5302652)

GM: DeCosta
Head Coach: Spagnuolo

Works for me, particularly Spags as the HC. Guy looks like the next great thing to me -- unlike overrated guys like McDaniels and Jason f'ing Garrett.