Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 5373060)

I want the big arm cool under pressure comeback play of Matt Stafford cause our Oline even after FA and the draft won't be what Bradford had in Oklahoma.

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5372511)

agree... but he will not hit the ground running in the NFL. A team that chooses him will have to be patient and develop him. I think he will be successful but not right away.

The Chiefs have always sucked at developing a QB.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5373091)

I don't see how any QB is going to "hit the ground running" in the NFL.

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 5373060)

Either Detriot will take Bradford for his Manningesque type of pocket passer abilities and his crazy college numbers, or they'll take Stafford for his big arm and upside pro style. Either way we'll get one of the two and I'm not too worried because I see great things in both of them, my personal pick is Stafford though. I'm not a mindless drone who just goes off one game, especially a game that happens almost a month after the regular college season ends to judge Bradford. I think they'll both be good quarterbacks but in my personal opinion I want the big arm cool under pressure comeback play of Matt Stafford cause our Oline even after FA and the draft won't be what Bradford had in Oklahoma.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5373102)

Matt Ryan.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5373127)

oh, but he was (and is) in a spread system, that doesn't count [/hamas, mecca, you]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 5373060)

Either Detriot will take Bradford for his Manningesque type of pocket passer abilities and his crazy college numbers, or they'll take Stafford for his big arm and upside pro style. Either way we'll get one of the two and I'm not too worried because I see great things in both of them, my personal pick is Stafford though. I'm not a mindless drone who just goes off one game, especially a game that happens almost a month after the regular college season ends to judge Bradford. I think they'll both be good quarterbacks but in my personal opinion I want the big arm cool under pressure comeback play of Matt Stafford cause our Oline even after FA and the draft won't be what Bradford had in Oklahoma.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5373128)

He wasn't, and isn't, and I wanted to draft Ryan last year.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5373135)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...11-2-08_12.JPG

sorry, I guess I was seeing things when he was/is always in the shotgun formation.

I liked him too, glad you wanted him, so what. Doesn't devalue my point. he went through an offseason program before his first start, correct? He is now proving that he can do it in the NFL, at least so far. Also - good for him.

Now, what was it exactly that proved he could do that when he was in college? Are those "rules" conclusive for ALL College QB's? How do the ryan leafs and tom bradys fall into that evaluation?

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5373148)

Atlanta runs a prostyle offense most of the time, and Ryan didn't run the spread offense at BC. A picture of Ryan in the shotgun formation doesn't mean what you think it means. Your point was that "I don't see how any QB is going to "hit the ground running" in the NFL.", which is bunk, and Ryan proves that it's bunk.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5373170)

You got a hard on for me don't you?

My point is that he went through an offseason too, preseason, got to get started on his new NFL learning curve, he made adjustments and learned, right?

Why is only Stafford the one that can do that next year? I don't understand how this arguement has legs and keeps resurfacing at every point of discussion about any other QB not named Stafford. And it's got to the point where now my baises for stafford are getting mauled.....

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5373186)

I didn't mention Stafford, so I don't really know why you're bringing him up.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5371752)

Tight Endbow all the way homie. Single threat FTW

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5371742)

It's kinda "all or nothing" here. We deal in extremes.

My personal wish list is...

Sanchez
Stafford
Bradford

But to be honest, I'd be excited about any of those 3. It's about time the Chiefs went "balls out" and went after a franchise QB.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5371792)

I can't say Bradford is going to be a bust, but if I'm a GM, I'm not making a $60M investment in a kid that is going to have to be taught how to take snaps from center, learn 3, 5 and 7 step drops and actually read a defense, pre and post snap.

Sanchez
Stafford





Bradford

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5371796)

Your enter key must have broke after the sixth time you hit it after Stafford.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5371836)

I'm one of the few people that refuse to make that ridiculous comment that he doesn't make NFL-caliber throws. He does, but he's not required to nearly as often as Sanchez and Stafford.

He's obviously a talented college QB, but he has more going against him in regards to becoming a NFL QB compared to the other two.

Playing in a pro style offense is a HUGE advantage for Stafford and Sanchez.

Does Bradford have potential?

Absolutely.

But is that potential worth a $60M investment and a top draft pick, knowing that he has a hill to climb right out of the box, learning how to take snaps, use proper footwork on drops, and read defenses pre/post snap?

Bradford has potential, I'm just not sure it's going to be realized early enough to make him worth that large of a financial investment.

Even Herbstreit and Corso said he's going to have a large learning curve if he does declare.

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5371858)

If you're talking about the NFL, Tebow is irrelevant. If you're talking about tonight's game, he deserved all the praise.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5371917)

One thing I noticed about Bradford tonight was he just lacked zip on the ball all of his passes were lobbish even the short ones.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 5371934)

NOOOOOOO to bradford.