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keg in kc 01-22-2009 11:27 AM

It didn't come from profootballtalk, so it can't be valid.

BigChiefFan 01-22-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415640)
I agree with these teams getting things turned around in a hurry, but think Herm's only had one to do what he's wanted to do since coming here.

And he still did WORSE than other first year coaches. Herm is done and no we don't trust in him.

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5415660)
Because he's already employed and under contract.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand?

I am curious how the heck they'd announce Shanarat in a couple of days if they haven't interviewed anyone under the Rooney Rule. Unless they sat Jon Embree or someone down to do that, or held secretive interviews behind the scenes with someone else out there, I don't see how they could move so quickly to bring Shanarat in. Which gives me even more reason to doubt Shanarat is coming here anytime soon...

Mr_Tomahawk 01-22-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415663)
I also believe John Fox took Carolina's 31 ranked defense and his first year had them ranked #1, and it took Marty and Wade Phillips one year to turn around a crap San Diego team and bottom feeding defense.

Herm's issue IMO is not in the theory of rebuilding a team with young guys, it is in the way he's gone about doing it...

Agree 110% ....in the end, Herm just doesn't know HOW to rebuild. He only knows how to take an already established team and ride them into the ground.

KC4EVER 01-22-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5415645)
This isnt meant as a bashing, but what has Herm done in his entire career as an NFL head coach, that has you so convinced that he can do anything better than some, if not most, of the candidates out there? What traits does he possess that you think will/do make him a capable leader that can take a team from 2-14 to a championship within the next 2 seasons, which will likely require training and teaching a rookie QB for the NFL?

If memory serves me right, Chad Pennington was a young impressionable QB when he took over the Jets and the best trait Herm has is that he is a great leader, the man has a niche for leading young and old. That's why he gets the label of a players coach. Name me one team that lost badly last year where the players were all in favor of their coach returning. One thing struck me by surprise when Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

BigChiefFan 01-22-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415673)
I am curious how the heck they'd announce Shanarat in a couple of days if they haven't interviewed anyone under the Rooney Rule. Unless they sat Jon Embree or someone down to do that, or held secretive interviews behind the scenes with someone else out there, I don't see how they could move so quickly to bring Shanarat in. Which gives me even more reason to doubt Shanarat is coming here anytime soon...

Hello? Just a few weeks ago, the same type of thing took place when looking for a GM.

shitgoose 01-22-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)
If memory serves me right, Chad Pennington was a young impressionable QB when he took over the Jets and the best trait Herm has is that he is a great leader, the man has a niche for leading young and old. That's why he gets the label of a players coach. Name me one team that lost badly last year where the players were all in favor of their coach returning. One thing struck me by surprise when Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

6-26. Having your players like you doesn't win football games. Herm blows. Deal with it

Taco John 01-22-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415673)
I am curious how the heck they'd announce Shanarat in a couple of days if they haven't interviewed anyone under the Rooney Rule. Unless they sat Jon Embree or someone down to do that, or held secretive interviews behind the scenes with someone else out there, I don't see how they could move so quickly to bring Shanarat in. Which gives me even more reason to doubt Shanarat is coming here anytime soon...

The fine is only $200,000, and you're firing a black coach to hire the most qualified coach in all of football available.

It would be easy to appeal.

BigChiefFan 01-22-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)
If memory serves me right, Chad Pennington was a young impressionable QB when he took over the Jets and the best trait Herm has is that he is a great leader, the man has a niche for leading young and old. That's why he gets the label of a players coach. Name me one team that lost badly last year where the players were all in favor of their coach returning. One thing struck me by surprise when Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

How the **** can you be a great leader when your team doesn't win games? The only leading that is, is leading them to the slaughter. Herm is a putz and his head coaching skills are awful. Good riddance to him and all his excuse-making supporters.

KC-TBB 01-22-2009 11:39 AM

WHERE IS HANK STRAM WHEN YOU NEED HIM?????

FloridaMan88 01-22-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)
Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

Apparently you don't realize that many of these same players whose "full support" Herm has (according to you) won't be with the Chiefs in 2009 after Pioli scrubs the roster clean.

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5415690)
The fine is only $200,000, and you're firing a black coach to hire the most qualified coach in all of football available.

It would be easy to appeal.

That's something I'd totally anticipate Jerry Jones to be OK with, but Clark Hunt is going to do what his father would do and what the Hunt family has always done and follow the guidelines set by the NFL...

MahiMike 01-22-2009 11:42 AM

SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WON’T LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m.
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that there’s no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahan’s spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he can’t be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

Source http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:42 AM

Just remember, Joe Bugel also had the full support of his Raiders players and they responded by going 4-12. Players normally give a coach they know and like full support because they know said coach isn't going to come in and try to weed them out, the coach brought them in and will stick with them. New coach comes in, and he is going to get rid of a lot of the players, and he is going to ride them hard in training camp to see what they have. So from a player perspective, it's much easier to get a paycheck with a guy who you know...

MIAdragon 01-22-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)
If memory serves me right, Chad Pennington was a young impressionable QB when he took over the Jets and the best trait Herm has is that he is a great leader, the man has a niche for leading young and old. That's why he gets the label of a players coach. Name me one team that lost badly last year where the players were all in favor of their coach returning. One thing struck me by surprise when Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

are you out of your ****ing mind!?


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