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DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5506028)
I said what?
No.
I said that if you know a player has talent and they have shown themselves to have a strong skill set you take him. The argument that if scouts had scouted Lewis' skill set or Harrisons skill set better they would have drafted them much higher. Just like Brady at QB. Curry has shown a solid skill set now. He looks to have that kind of talent and is seen as the top defender in the draft. If the QB's are gone, we're set at LT and there isnt a DE you have to look at the other "elite" prospects. I'm sorry but the assertion that LB isnt an important position is wrong. If he looks to be that good you either reach for another position or you solidify one that is a need and happens to have a very good player available.
Harrison was an undrafted free agent from Kent State that was cut and on the practice squads of both the Steelers and the Ravens. He's not some "overnight" sensation. He's essentially the equivalent of Kurt Warner, a guys who spent years learning and paying his dues. He's 30 years old, BTW.

NEVER would he have gone in the first round out of college.

I'd take Jenkins over Curry.

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5506033)
Scott Wright did say that was in effect saying his pass rush skills are questionable.

He's rated highly because this is not a great draft class.
Why is he rated 6 spots higher than Sanchez in a weak draft class?

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506041)
You start a thread asking for reasons why Curry is worth a 3rd. When people start to give reasons you get all upset because it doesn't support your view of Sanchez or nothing. The other day you got all offended when someone quetioned Scott Wright's opinions. Now when I point out Wright thinks highly of Curry and ranks him higher, you don't want to hear it.
......Did you take the time to listen to him say that Curry isn't a reach "this year" oh yea you didn't.

That's a hell of a way to try to counter the argument that putting the best LB in college on a shitty team will mean something when it meant exactly nothing to the Lions.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506038)
I just don't think he is ready to play starting Day one and that is what we need.
Why?

Let Thigpen play in whatever offense we design to accentuate Stafford/Sanchez's strengths. The epic suck will pile up.

When the n00b is ready. Send him in. If that's the middle of the season, great. If that's 2010, cool.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506047)
Why is he rated 6 spots higher than Sanchez in a weak draft class?
By one guy. Big deal.

milkman 02-18-2009 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506038)
And Matt Cassell has been on the bench for 3 years and IMHO he still sucks.

If Pioli thinks Sanchez is the right person I will be happy about. I am not one of those people that don't want a QB I just don't think he is ready to play starting Day one and that is what we need.
No, actually that isn't what we need.

We need a QB that will be ready to lead this team when we are ready to compete.

We aren't going to be that team next year.

And whether it's Stafford or Sanchez, I think both could use some time on the sideline to develop.

However, if they had to start day one, I think Sanchez is more mature and could handle the adversity better.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506038)
And Matt Cassell has been on the bench for 3 years and IMHO he still sucks.

If Pioli thinks Sanchez is the right person I will be happy about. I am not one of those people that don't want a QB I just don't think he is ready to play starting Day one and that is what we need.
What leads you to believe that he isn't ready? How many games have you seen him play? All four quarters?

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:02 PM
Does anyone agree/disagree with my Stafford boom or bust statement?

I just don't see him being an average type of guy. Comments?

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 11:02 PM
Combine is this week. Those positions will be changing. Curry is a guy that will slip this week.

milkman 02-18-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506047)
Why is he rated 6 spots higher than Sanchez in a weak draft class?
Because, as mecca said earlier, he's a safe pick.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:03 PM
I'm still waiting to see the Ernie Sims point get refuted, he sure is a difference make on the Lions inspite of being a really good player.

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506049)
......Did you take the time to listen to him say that Curry isn't a reach "this year" oh yea you didn't.

That's a hell of a way to try to counter the argument that putting the best LB in college on a shitty team will mean something when it meant exactly nothing to the Lions.

Did taking Leinart, Russell, Smith or Rodgers mean anything to their teams?

milkman 02-18-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506063)
Does anyone agree/disagree with my Stafford boom or bust statement?

I just don't see him being an average type of guy. Comments?
I agree.

That really goes back to my assessment of their maturity.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5506069)
Because, as mecca said earlier, he's a safe pick.
Logic fails him....he's been this way for awhile now.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506050)
Why?

Let Thigpen play in whatever offense we design to accentuate Stafford/Sanchez's strengths. The epic suck will pile up.

When the n00b is ready. Send him in. If that's the middle of the season, great. If that's 2010, cool.
IMHO if you are going to draft a QB that high you have to play them.


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