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Pasta Little Brioni 02-22-2009 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5515719)
Well, Todd McDumbass looked pretty smart with the way that Sanchez performed. I expected a shorter, more compact delivery.

Nothing about this guy says pro. From his refusal to listen to his coach and his family, to his decision to hire his brother as his agent.

I hope the Chiefs don't draft him, but I will be curious to see how he does in his career.
:spock:

aturnis 02-22-2009 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5515733)
And God, Shonn Greene with a horrible ****ing 40.
What'd he run?

NickAthanFan 02-22-2009 02:24 PM
People crack me up--don't pick a guy cause he has a great workout at the combine, he's just a workout warrior. Guy has a bad workout, don't pick him because he's a complete bust.

People focus way too much on the combine and not enough of the games.

NickAthanFan 02-22-2009 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5515872)
What'd he run?
7.3

doomy3 02-22-2009 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5515872)
What'd he run?
4.63

aturnis 02-22-2009 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5515753)
Actually, it depends on the drill. He missed two throws without even dropping. They did the first couple throws without dropping back at all.
If anything...not dropping back will hurt a QB's accuracy. It's a process and motion they get used to.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-22-2009 02:27 PM
Anyone know what round Ian Johnson was projected to go before his nice 40 time?

aturnis 02-22-2009 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5515884)
4.63
Slow...but not much slower than expected.

CrazyHorse 02-22-2009 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5515714)
You are an idiot if you think that those 10 throws by a quarterback to guys he's never played with before, mean rat shit to a scout.

If you take a 5 step drop to throw an out and the ball comes out as soon as your foot plants on the last step, the speed at which the WR runs his route and makes his cut makes all the difference. If the WR makes a bad cut and the ball goes nowhere near him, he's not the one who looks bad, even if he's the one who made the mistake.
Okay, but in all fairness Hamas, the sideline is the same for everyone. If you're throwing the ball 5+ yards out of bounds, you cant blame the WR for that. Understand too that all the other QBs are working out there under the same conditions and looked better. You cant just make excuses because they suit your agenda.

If the guy shits in his hat, he shits in his hat. That's all there is to it.

NickAthanFan 02-22-2009 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5515934)
Okay, but in all fairness Hamas, the sideline is the same for everyone. If you're throwing the ball 5+ yards out of bounds, you cant blame the WR for that. Understand too that all the other QBs are working out there under the same conditions and looked better. You cant just make excuses because they suit your agenda.

If the guy shits in his hat, he shits in his hat. That's all there is to it.
So you think you should make your decision on who you draft based upon the combine?

CrazyHorse 02-22-2009 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NickAthanFan (Post 5515944)
So you think you should make your decision on who you draft based upon the combine?
No. But I think that the combine is a venue to raise your draft status. So it only makes sense that it can potentially lower your draft status.

I thought Sanchez was a high risk prospect in the beginning and if anything, that thought was elevated today.

But I definately wouldn't say that a bad day in Indy is the final say in anyones carreer.

Reerun_KC 02-22-2009 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5515765)
One must wonder why Sanchez threw then. In my opinion, he has made quite a few, from coming out early despite the advice of his coach and parents, to hiring his brother as his agent.

I know, I am am just bashing the kid. But, the pro Sanchez crowd act like he is a no brainer. I think he will be a bust in five years.

Akili Smith has a similar story to Sanchez's, in that he had one good year, and then vaulted to a top five pick.

In fact, does ANYONE have an example of a single QB that started for one year prior to coming out, especially, as a junior that ever panned out in the NFL?

Seriously.
Where do you come up with this stuff?:doh!:

doomy3 02-22-2009 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5515989)
Where do you come up with this stuff?:doh!:
Just out of curiosity, which part of his post are you saying isn't true?

DrRyan 02-22-2009 03:02 PM
I agree, those passes he threw out of bounds were very unimpressive. They also seemed to be harping on his long delivery. I will view it as a whole after he has his pro day and team workouts. If the Chiefs rate him highly and view him as a franchise QB, then you take him. If not and they don't take him, so be it. Pioli, the scouts, and the rest of the player personnel dept. know much more than any CP armchair GMs do.

DrRyan 02-22-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5515765)
One must wonder why Sanchez threw then. In my opinion, he has made quite a few, from coming out early despite the advice of his coach and parents, to hiring his brother as his agent.

I know, I am am just bashing the kid. But, the pro Sanchez crowd act like he is a no brainer. I think he will be a bust in five years.

Akili Smith has a similar story to Sanchez's, in that he had one good year, and then vaulted to a top five pick.

In fact, does ANYONE have an example of a single QB that started for one year prior to coming out, especially, as a junior that ever panned out in the NFL?

Seriously.
All seem to be sensible questions to ask. You cannot just say pull the trigger on the guy without asking and finding the answers those questions. Coming out as a Junior as well as lack of starts are valid questions about drafting a QB early.


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