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kcbubb 02-26-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5528494)
I don't think Aaron Curry sucks, I just don't think OLB's are worth top 3 picks.

And Michael Crabtree has red flags popping up everywhere he's cutting himself down.

that's where your opinion differs with many NFL analysts. one reason Curry has been projected so high is because of his versatility. They believe he can play any LB position in the 3-4 or 4-3 including rushing the passer as a 3-4 OLB.

Mecca 02-26-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5528712)
that's where your opinion differs with many NFL analysts. one reason Curry has been projected so high is because of his versatility. They believe he can play any LB position in the 3-4 or 4-3 including rushing the passer as a 3-4 OLB.

Just thinking a guy with less than 10 sacks in his career that readily admits he's never been coached to pass rush and has no pass rush moves is a pretty large assumption.

Demonpenz 02-26-2009 09:26 AM

ask anyone in the nfl defense wins championships

keg in kc 02-26-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5528712)
They believe he can play any LB position in the 3-4 or 4-3 including rushing the passer as a 3-4 OLB.

Inside/outside? Yes, 'they' say that. "Including rushing the passer"? No, 'they' don't say that. I don't think I've seen anybody anywhere talk about him as any kind of a pass rusher, excluding a handful of people on this board who seem to believe his lack of sacks was the sole result of WFs coaching staff.

philfree 02-26-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5528729)
Inside/outside? Yes, 'they' say that. "Including rushing the passer"? No, 'they' don't say that. I don't think I've seen anybody anywhere talk about him as any kind of a pass rusher, excluding a handful of people on this board who seem to believe his lack of sacks was the sole result of WFs coaching staff.

I've heard Mayock say that Curry could rush the passer. I like the clip of Mayock showing Curry's one supposed flaw of occasionally not breaking down in space to make the tackle. Curry shases the QB down and forces him to throw an INT. Some flaw.


PhilFree:arrow:

Mr. Laz 02-26-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5528071)
Your dupe account made that nickname.

O'rly ....... and what would the name of my dupe account be?



dyin' to hear this ROFL

Brock 02-26-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5528754)
I've heard Mayock say that Curry could rush the passer. I like the clip of Mayock showing Curry's one supposed flaw of occasionally not breaking down in space to make the tackle. Curry shases the QB down and forces him to throw an INT. Some flaw.


PhilFree:arrow:

3 sacks per year. It's probably a flaw.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5528489)
I think it's definitely devolved to the point where all the QB lovers cut down Curry, Crabtree, and pretty much every one else who isn't a QB. And the people who are afraid of a QB cut them down while propping up the other guy..

Did you even read the OP?

Mr. Laz 02-26-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5528851)
3 sacks per year. It's probably a flaw.

unfair ..... Curry wasn't used as a pass rusher

he got 3 sacks per year just in his normal linebacker duties

but ..... it is a concern

much like Sanchez's lack of experience, Curry's lack of experience as a pass rusher makes it a difficult judgment taking him so high in the draft.

the difference is that even if Curry doesn't develop as a stud pass rusher he could still be a stud linebacker, which he's already shown.

Sanchez, on the other hand, is boom or bust.

htismaqe 02-26-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5528917)
unfair ..... Curry wasn't used as a pass rusher

he got 3 sacks per year just in his normal linebacker duties

but ..... it is a concern

much like Sanchez's lack of experience, Curry's lack of experience as a pass rusher makes it a difficult judgment taking him so high in the draft.

the difference is that even if Curry doesn't develop as a stud pass rusher he could still be a stud linebacker, which he's already shown.

Sanchez, on the other hand, is boom or bust.

The problem is that you could get a guy like Curry with a MUCH later pick. Just ask Jerrod Mayo.

I'm VERY torn on Sanchez. He has the "it" factor - the intangibles - that you want in a QB. However, lack of experience is a HUGE red flag. He won't have a chance to gain "experience" at this point. He has a chance to learn by watching film and studying plays, but that's not game-time experience. He's either going to succeed, or he's going to fail. Simple as that.

To be fair, I'm torn on Stafford too. He has the experience that Sanchez doesn't, but the more I watched him this past year, the more I thought he DOESN'T have "it". He's got the physical tools, but does he have it upstairs?

Mr. Laz 02-26-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5528995)
The problem is that you could get a guy like Curry with a MUCH later pick. Just ask Jerrod Mayo.

I'm VERY torn on Sanchez. He has the "it" factor - the intangibles - that you want in a QB. However, lack of experience is a HUGE red flag. He won't have a chance to gain "experience" at this point. He has a chance to learn by watching film and studying plays, but that's not game-time experience. He's either going to succeed, or he's going to fail. Simple as that.

To be fair, I'm torn on Stafford too. He has the experience that Sanchez doesn't, but the more I watched him this past year, the more I thought he DOESN'T have "it". He's got the physical tools, but does he have it upstairs?

agreed with pretty much everything

the top of the draft is weak and risky this year ... more so than many other years imo.

you got guys with less exp that you want with a top pick
you got guys with part of their game missing that is necessary for a top pick

i'm pretty much ok with whomever Pioli goes with tbh

it's a dam crap shoot as far as i can tell. I wish him good luck and hopes he doesn't screw it up.

htismaqe 02-26-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5529031)
i'm pretty much ok with whomever Pioli goes with tbh

:clap:

I'm there with you brother.

Brock 02-26-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5529129)
:clap:

I'm there with you brother.

WTF are you doing here?

Mr. Laz 02-26-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5529137)
WTF are you doing here?

htismaqe is my secret lover

we had a spat, so he left

we are back together now, so he's back


come here and give me a hug, parkee baby.

Brock 02-26-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5529151)
htismaqe is my secret lover

we had a spat, so he left

we are back together now, so he's back


come here and give me a hug, parkee baby.

Well, I'm glad to see it. Give him a kiss on the ear for me.


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