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RealSNR 04-08-2009 05:58 PM

Sackofgoo-

If Glenn Dorsey fails again at DT this season, but ends up having hidden potential as a long snapper to the point that he is the next Kendall Gammon, does that make him a bust?

The answer is YES.

A good guard is more valuable than a good long snapper, sure, but it's the same principle

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5652113)
I don't give a rat's ass where they played him for his first three seasons...

That's obvious.

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...they didn't draft a player that high in the draft to play guard.
Apparently they did. Maybe it was just the Cardinals plan to make sure he became accustomed to the speed of the NFL, and decided to work him into the LT position by playing him at guard for his first three seasons in the league. I'm just throwing out some guesses here...obviously you took my initial advice, called the Cardinals and they specifically told you that they drafted him to play left tackle. You seem so sure that this is the case that you must have some concrete inside information.

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They clearly saw what became evident when they did finally play him there to everyone to see.

He sucked ass at LT.
I don't know. I didn't watch many Cardinal games when he was at the LT position for them. He started every game, so he must have been a better alternative for them at the LT spot than others. I guess I'll have to trust your superior football analyzing skills for the final determining factor of him sucking ass or not. I'm sure you know a lot more about sucking ass than I do.

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Only a ****ing moron of epic proportions would even think to suggest that he was drafted to play guard with the #2 overall pick.
It's probably a feasible explanation as to why the Cardinals have struggled up until this year. Do you personally know the one responsible for picking a guard that high in 2001 in the Cardinals organization? You must, because you are calling them a moron.

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Jesus Christ, I didn't think it was possible to be this ****ing stupid.
It's okay. Most stupid people don't realize that they are stupid, and it is usually genetic. I'd ask if your parents are stupid too, but then, with you being so stupid, you probably wouldn't know if they were stupid or not. I kinda feel bad for you in a way. I'm sorry if I somehow provoked your stupidity into actually being showcased on a public internets forum. I promise I'll try to help you from here on out. I've worked with reeruns in the past doing some court ordered charity work, so I think I'll be able to help you out here.

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5652123)
He was drafted to play LT b/c he was drafted #2 overall and no one drafts guards in the top 15, let alone the top 2. Same with centers, right tackles and fullbacks.

Kill yourself.

Remember, I'm stupid. Perhaps you should show me how do it, then I promise I'll copy what you do.

RealSNR 04-08-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652165)
Remember, I'm stupid. Perhaps you should show me how do it, then I promise I'll copy what you do.

Your comebacks suck. So do you.

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5652175)
Your comebacks suck. So do you.

What? You didn't like how I talked to your girlfriend? You feel like you have to defend her virtue?

RealSNR 04-08-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652183)
What? You didn't like how I talked to your girlfriend? You feel like you have to defend her virtue?

Now I don't even know WTF you're talking about. :spock:

Have you ever visited Warpaint Illustrated? They seem more like your type.

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 06:20 PM

You know, I was wondering, do you think that Sebastian Janikowski was orginally drafted as a OLB, but was a bust, so they switched him to place kicker?

RealSNR 04-08-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652192)
You know, I was wondering, do you think that Sebastian Janikowski was orginally drafted as a OLB, but was a bust, so they switched him to place kicker?

No. What's your point?

htismaqe 04-08-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5651924)
Htis, you usually have a little more sense and rationality than the rest of these people. If the Cardinals played him at guard his rookie, as well as subsequent seasons, wouldn't that indicate that he was drafted to play at guard?

But regardless of the draft position issue, if a guy is an eighth year player who has started every game of his career and has made the Pro Bowl, does that equate to a "bust?" Yes or no?

Nope.

The expectation was that Davis was going to be the cornerstone of the line but he couldn't hack it and they moved him to guard.

And you can't just say "regardless of the draft position". He was the 2nd overall pick for Christ's sake...

Coogs 04-08-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5651998)
Best top 5 ive seen so far. Although Brown is growing on me. I would put him above Smith.

On Path to the Draft tonight, the special segment was on the defensive ends. Casserly, Davis, and Mayock were all less than impressed with Brown. Both as a 4-3 defensive end and as a 3-4 OLB. Pretty well said he could get exposed big time in either setting. That is me paraphrasing.

htismaqe 04-08-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5652352)
On Path to the Draft tonight, the special segment was on the defensive ends. Casserly, Davis, and Mayock were all less than impressed with Brown. Both as a 4-3 defensive end and as a 3-4 OLB. Pretty well said he could get exposed big time in either setting. That is me paraphrasing.

Yeah, I've cooled on Brown. Somebody mentioned the FSU legacy the other day and it got me thinking about it, and I've just been down on him ever since. I really don't see any way he'll be good enough for the 4-3 which is really going to limit who looks at him.

Coogs 04-08-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5652382)
Yeah, I've cooled on Brown. Somebody mentioned the FSU legacy the other day and it got me thinking about it, and I've just been down on him ever since. I really don't see any way he'll be good enough for the 4-3 which is really going to limit who looks at him.

FWIW, Davis did say he could be taught more pass rush moves, and it would be up to the coaches to teach him a few more. But they really could see him struggling in the pass defense area in a 3-4 OLB spot.

Definately a buyer beware type.

crazycoffey 04-08-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5652126)
The only thing I can think of:

If human rights were intelligence, he'd be the Holocaust.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5652113)
Good god, you are the stupoidest mother****er to ever pound on a keyboard.

I don't give a rat's ass where they played him for his first three seasons, they didn't draft a player that high in the draft to play guard.

They clearly saw what became evident when they did finally play him there to everyone to see.

He sucked ass at LT.

Only a ****ing moron of epic proportions would even think to suggest that he was drafted to play guard with the #2 overall pick.

Jesus Christ, I didn't think it was possible to be this ****ing stupid.

Hell, there isn't a descriptor to do justice to your stupidity.

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5651926)
findthedr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sackofgoo

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5651889)
Niether one of them were good picks how hard is this to understand?

Does everyones brain just ****ing fall out during draft season? This semantic arguing game is getting really ****ing annoying really ****ing fast. So knock it the **** off and talk like you have a god damn brain.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5652175)
Your comebacks suck. So do you.


why the big poundage on Saccogoo? Actually, more importantly, is it ever going to be possible to debate different opinions without all the intense animosity fodder?

see how htismaqe does it? all class.....



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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5652338)
Nope.

The expectation was that Davis was going to be the cornerstone of the line but he couldn't hack it and they moved him to guard.

And you can't just say "regardless of the draft position". He was the 2nd overall pick for Christ's sake...


OnTheWarpath15 04-08-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5651926)
findthedr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sackofgoo

No ****ing shit.

I take back all (or at least most) of the bad things I said about findthedr.

He looks like a goddamn football genius compared to some of the dipshits that graced us with their presence this offseason.

OnTheWarpath15 04-08-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5652126)
The only thing I can think of:

If human rights were intelligence, he'd be the Holocaust.

LMAO


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