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DeezNutz 01-01-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6396927)
this year sucked but imo it's too early to kick Pioli in the nuts about it.

I think he deserves to be kicked squarely in the nuts, but he also deserves more time before we can proclaim him a success or failure.

At this point, all I'm saying is that all indications are leaning toward the latter.

Who knows...maybe he'll be ****ing nails this off-season? And we'll all be talking about "the process" it took to get to that point. Maybe...

My guess is that this won't transpire, mainly because I've been burned by a disconcertingly similar scenario in a different sport. But I'm definitely willing (and hopeful) to be wrong.

SPATCH 01-01-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 6396918)
When your best acquisition for a team that went 2-14 the year before is a kicker taken in the 7th round, you have failed epicly.

FIRE PIOLI RAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:34 PM

Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396964)
Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.

You sure about this?

DeezNutz 01-01-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6396953)
Haley's done some good things and some things that haven't been quite so good. That's the nature of coaching, particular when dealing with rookie coaches. The notion that Edwards was a better coach based upon Haley's one year of tenure in comparison to what Edwards failed to accomplish in Kansas City is laughable.

How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6396969)
You sure about this?

Yea pretty sure, as are several other people here.

Todd Haley has been a brutal coach, but hey maybe he'll just wake up one day and not be a moron like some suggest.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396973)
How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.

Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6396975)
Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....

It's not even hate, it's truth. The guy does stuff that people won't even do on video games.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396974)
Yea pretty sure, as are several other people here.

Todd Haley has been a brutal coach, but hey maybe he'll just wake up one day and not be a moron like some suggest.

Fair enough...


He will mostly likely get another year if not 3.... So next year is going to be very telling...

He has to get a OC and QB coach... Cant be debated. He has to have those...

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396964)
Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.

Ok, I'm going to need you to explain something to me...

Pioli sucks and has been "epic fail"
Haley sucks and Herm was better
Cassel sucks and is just Thigpen getting paid more
Only 2 players have been better than those they replaced and some replacements are worse
The team's schedule was harder this year than last


How did the team manage to win more games AND have all of the above be true?

DeezNutz 01-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6396975)
Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....

I don't hate him.

I do hate his inability to be a competent coach on Sundays.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396979)
It's not even hate, it's truth. The guy does stuff that people won't even do on video games.

What is sad? So did Herm and Herm was in the league as a HC for years already...

DeezNutz 01-01-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6396981)
Ok, I'm going to need you to explain something to me...

Pioli sucks and has been "epic fail"
Haley sucks and Herm was better
Cassel sucks and is just Thigpen getting paid more
Only 2 players have been better than those they replaced and some replacements are worse
The team's schedule was harder this year than last


How did the team manage to win more games AND have all of the above be true?

You do realize that the schedule is weaker, right?

And, let's throw out the ubiquitous, horse ****ing shit luck.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396982)
I don't hate him.

I do hate his inability to be a competent coach on Sundays.

Understand. I spent the last 3 years feelign the exact same way!

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396973)
How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.

I've watched all but 2 of the games, and he hasn't been anything near as bad as what you portray. And if you really think he's been a worse game day coach than Herm, you've just lost all credibility you might have had with me when it comes to evaluating such things.


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