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Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6534964)
I think the word idiotic sums it up best.
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Your posts are content driven.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6535056)
It's really hard to throw WR screen passes man.

That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 09:19 PM

The numbers support the claims.

Cassel, at best, is average.

Seriously, this reminds me of Royals fan hoping that Hochevar develops. Um...wake up.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535060)
Joe Montana. Hackett was the OC when he was acquired.

And this obviously started the trend, so I'd say it's pretty applicable.

The trend? The trend of getting familiar players in with coaches they have had prior is a pretty common thing in the NFL.

Deberg_1990 02-15-2010 09:21 PM

Cassel cause Chief he get good!

Mecca 02-15-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535073)
That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

That's 1 throw, and it's fine to bring it up as a great play he made. All I ask for is consistency, until he can consistently complete passes in the 10-20 yard range he will always struggle.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535032)
I keep reading this, and it's complete bullshit every time.

Carl Peterson signed players he had no first-hand knowledge of
. Pioli was around Cassel, knew alot about him, and obviously had a lot of faith in his abilities.

The only comparison is Trent Green with Vermeil.

Carl Peterson never had a comfort level with any of the 49ers QBs he acquired prior.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535083)
The trend? The trend of getting familiar players in with coaches they have had prior is a pretty common thing in the NFL.

These statements are antithetical.

I don't believe the Cassel acquisition was a "safe" play, but it was absolutely the type of "risk" that Carl would have been more than comfortable with, especially with the draft pick we surrendered.

ChiefsCountry 02-15-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535073)
That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535103)
It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

he still won more games in one season, than the chiefs have in three seasons.

Deberg_1990 02-15-2010 09:32 PM

I dont think Cassel is complete garbage....but i dont see alot of upside in him.

I think hes always going to be a guy who throws 15-20 TD's a year.

I want a guy who is going to throw 25 -35 TD's a year. Thats pretty much the standard now for guys going to Super Bowls.

ChiefsCountry 02-15-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535109)
It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

Well he is paid to be our franchise QB and the team ****ed up by trading for him when a legit one was available. I think its legit to rag on the POS. Face it he is the face of our franchise, if he played like a legit franchise QB I would have no problem eating crow and say I was wrong about him. I really would and hope for the Chiefs sake he does, bc I don't think Pioli is man enought to admit he screwed up.

milkman 02-15-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535109)
It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

I tend to agree with you.

I believe he was better with the Patriots in '08 than most are giving him credit for, but like you, I don't expect him to ever amount to much.


As to the news, if they like Clausen enough to trade a couple of draft picks for him, just take him a #5 overall.

We have too many holes to fill to be giving away picks that high in the draft, and last year proved that reaching wasn't a problem for them.

Touchdown Bowe 02-15-2010 09:38 PM

20th-25th pick? He'll be lucky to escape the top 10..

Fat Elvis 02-15-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 6534584)
would the Lions pass on one of the top DT's in this draft for Dorsey? I don't see it. I think I would take Suh over Dorsey, but that is just me.

You're not Gunther Cunningham....


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