To me, the closest comparison to him is Marshall Yanda from Baltimore that went to Iowa as well. I think they are very similar players.

take it for what its worth.

And he's playing guard...and not even starting.

he started 9 games last year. He was moved to guard because Oher fell to them and they already had Gaither, they wanted him on the field and found a spot for him.

HUH? that doesnt scream "red flag" to you?

People need to stop taking profootballfocus as some word of gospel. It's a nice site that brings some nice info and discussion points, but it goes to far to say Waters is ranked as the 20th best player at his position. A lot of statistics are subjective - like sacks. Stats Inc., used by the NFL has Albert as giving up 9 sacks, profootballfocus has it as 7.

I know cfbstats.com (college football) has a really odd interpretation of "pressures".

I'd like to see one article from 4-5 years ago on Monroe and Albert in college. I don't believe for one second that Monroe "refused" to play a certain position. That's not how it generally works in college football, especially at a university that churns out OL.

So do you have some evidence that Waters isn't the 20th best player at his position, other than "I want him to be, because I like Brian Waters and I am a Chiefs homer!"

Waters sucked ass last year.

I'm saying their grades and analysis are subjective. They can only guess on certain plays as to who screwed up if they don't know the scheme or play design.

Law of averages comes into effect over 16 games.

Considering their grades reflect what a great many here saw on the field, they have credibility.

Barry Richardson may never be the player that Kyle Calloway will be, but it won't be due to talent.

Richardson is far more athletic and talented.

The benching goes back to the problem he has always had.

Lack of motivation.

If someone could ever light a fire under his ass, he'd be a stud.

And for you Iowa homers, I'm sorry that your boy looks like Herman Munster.

You shouldn't have to light a fire under an NFL players butt. If you do, I don't think they well ever be worth anything.