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MahiMike 08-30-2010 07:35 PM

I predict a 16 and OHHHHHHHHHHH! season.

MadMax 08-30-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965675)
Yeah same as my thoughts ..just took my lab for a walk prob the best dogs ever



Ahhh I had a big black lab for years, he was my best friend, I miss him :( His name was Max lol.

Marcellus 08-30-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 6965690)
The sad thing is this isn't any kind of "mastermind" game plan. They aren't trying to hide anything.This is the QB we have, expect much of the same ALL year long...4 maybe 5 wins tops.

I hope we haven't been game planning much for these preseason games.

Not saying we will jut start throwing the ball all over down the field but Sept 13th will say a lot about what the "plan" is.

I think it's pretty simple, they are going to be a running offense with some play action when they want to go down field. Lot's of screens and slants as well to use JC and DMC's speed.

Problem is 3rd and long is not going to be kind.

The only way the down field passing game will be effective is if the running game is on.

You can win games that way with a good defense and ST. Welcome back to Marty ball!

O.city 08-30-2010 07:38 PM

I have a choc. lab who is two right now. they are just great solid dogs

O.city 08-30-2010 07:39 PM

Yeah but maybe just maybe we can throw it downfield just enough

MadMax 08-30-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6965576)
I obviously don't coach for a reason and I'm not a scout, so I clearly don't know WTF I'm talking about, therefore I definitely shouldn't question the divine wisdom of Pioli & Haley... but I will anyway. How this entire offseason and draft could pass without addressing A) our bottom of the league ranking in pass rush and B) bottom of the league run defense is beyond me. It is unfathomable to me that either of them could watch game footage of Jerome Harrison, coming within 10 yards of setting the single game rushing record and not say "Whatever the f@ck we do, we have to figure out a way to stop the run!"

If our run defense gets shredded like that again this season, the neglect of addressing that glaring weakness should be punishable by death. Its fundamental football. The two keys to a good defense are stopping the run and getting to the QB. We haven't done either of those things well since before the current regime arrived and they have done little, if anything, to improve that. Until they pull their heads out of each others asses, they don't deserve to have a winning record.




Come on Ralphy, you sell yourself short. An autistic monkey could evaluate talent better than "gasp" the Godfather

DeezNutz 08-30-2010 07:42 PM

Game plan. Who gives a shit? It's not like we have a secret weapon.

Psst...guess what? McCluster will be in the slot AND get some carries. Don't tell anyone!!!

MadMax 08-30-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6965701)
I hope we haven't been game planning much for these preseason games.

Not saying we will jut start throwing the ball all over down the field but Sept 13th will say a lot about what the "plan" is.

I think it's pretty simple, they are going to be a running offense with some play action when they want to go down field. Lot's of screens and slants as well to use JC and DMC's speed.

Problem is 3rd and long is not going to be kind.

The only way the down field passing game will be effective is if the running game is on.

You can win games that way with a good defense and ST. Welcome back to Marty ball!



Hey I could take a stout defense and good running game at this point :) But we have no respect for the deep threat and that will only end up bad. I hate to keep bagging on Cassel, but damn he really does suck IMHO.

Spott 08-30-2010 07:49 PM

2-14 with wins at home versus Oakland and Arizona.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6965715)
Game plan. Who gives a shit? It's not like we have a secret weapon.

Psst...guess what? McCluster will be in the slot AND get some carries. Don't tell anyone!!!

LMAO

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965705)
Yeah but maybe just maybe we can throw it downfield just enough

That's the thing. Weis' offense is a horizontal offense, at least it was when he was with the Patriots. I don't have a problem with the CHiefs not throwing deep much. But he does need to have at least the threat of throwing deep there. And to do well horizontally, you have to be a surgeon in terms of getting rid of that ball lightning quick and knowing where to go before the ball is snapped. Unless something drastic changes, Cassel is not that guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6965760)
That's the thing. Weis' offense is a horizontal offense, at least it was when he was with the Patriots. I don't have a problem with the CHiefs not throwing deep much. But he does need to have at least the threat of throwing deep there. And to do well horizontally, you have to be a surgeon in terms of getting rid of that ball lightning quick and knowing where to go before the ball is snapped. Unless something drastic changes, Cassel is not that guy.

Nothing a little Luck wouldn't fix, eh? :)

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6965816)
Nothing a little Luck wouldn't fix, eh? :)

I'll tell you what, with Weis' offense, you don't need outrageous talent at a lot of the offensive skill positions. You bring in a legit QB, and this offense is very close to being very good.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6965877)
I'll tell you what, with Weis' offense, you don't need outrageous talent at a lot of the offensive skill positions. You bring in a legit QB, and this offense is very close to being very good.

Agreed.

Ebolapox 08-30-2010 09:34 PM

my gut thought (without looking at the schedule) is 6-10 or 7-9.

my 'actually look at the schedule' thought is as follows:

Wk1: SD @ KC - loss (0-1)--closer than many would imagine, we keep it within 10 points
Wk2: KC @ CLE - win (1-1)--defense and special teams FTW
Wk3: SF @ KC - loss (1-2)--san fran has a chance to be really good.
Wk4: BYE
Wk5: KC @ IND - loss (1-3)--could be a blowout for indy, however we may keep it close due to it's being after the bye AND the umpires neutering peyton manning... heh, not really.
Wk6: KC @ HOU - loss (1-4)--houston should be good, they always play us tough. plus, second game of 2-game roadtrip. those are ALWAYS tough
Wk7: JAC @ KC - win (2-4)--jacksonville always plays us tough, but they likely aren't that great this year.
Wk8: BUF @ KC - win (3-4)--if our defense is clicking, we may give their young o-line fits (haha, I'm likely full of shit). either way, this is the type of game a good team wins. I'm not convinced we're a good team, but this is me being completely optimistic.
Wk9: KC @ OAK - loss, but I'm IFFY on this one. I have the feeling oaktown won't be as good as advertised this year. 3-5
Wk10: KC @ DEN - loss. 3-6. we always lose in denver, this is no different.
Wk11: ARI @ KC - win. 4-6. I have the feeling arizona won't be that great this year. I have the feeling, though, that we could lose this one AND the buffalo game, which would have us at 2-8.
Wk12: KC @ SEA - win (damn I'm optimistic... 5-6). I don't think seattle will be that good this year. this should be a very close game, though, unless cassel breaks out (HA).
Wk13: DEN @ KC - win (6-6). we always beat denver at home in december.
Wk14: KC @ SD - loss (6-7). sandy eggo is tough, no doubt.
Wk15: KC @ STL - win (7-7). st. lose should be shitty again this year
Wk16: TEN @ KC - win (8-7). OPTIMISM: chris johnson will be completely down for the count at this point, and we're able to tee-off on vince young.
Wk17: OAK @ KC - win (9-7). jesus ****, I had no idea that thing I just smoked was a crack pipe. if we're playing decently at this point, we have a chance to surprise some people.

if we somehow beat san diego week one, it could be 10-6

maybe it's some of my former youthful optimism, but the schedule says winning record to me. my head (ignoring schedule, which will likely be tougher than it appears) says 7-9. with some good breaks (and the shitty teams playing to form, and us NOT being shitty), 9-7.


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