Things we have learned from JCharles1981 tonight:

1) Dan Saleamua really was an offensive linemen...apparently not a very good one, either.
2) Al Saunders was an overrated defensive coordinator
3) I hate Tony Moeaki and have given up on his after just 2 years.

I think you should start a new thread and call everyone to address this issue. I am sure CP will lend a listening ear.
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I think you overestimate the fanbase.

While I agree that many more would like to see a QB drafted and are clued in to who McDaniels is and why they do not want.....

This message board and talk radio is not a good gauge of the overall Chiefs Kingdom. This board is consisted of people who are much more informed that the average Chiefs fan.

This would be the same Kent Babb who as recently as a few days ago in a Star chat said the Chiefs most likely keep Haley? The same guy who discounted the problems between Pioli and Haley? Sorry but these local guys are spoon fed their information. I believe it was Clark Hunt that had enough though and made the move. It's just a gut feeling from the press conference.

There is no way the entire team "loved" Haley or hated him either. Most likely the truth is in the middle. I never thought he had the credentials and I didn't like his coaching. A lot of Chiefs fans liked him. I'm sure that's how it was in the locker room as well. Time to move on.

Fisher is not supercoach!
 

Good post and one I agree with. His winning % is somewhere around 54%. There are not many experienced coaches out there with great winning percentages or they would have jobs. I do think Pioli should hire someone who he feels comfortable working with and get everyone going the same direction. It's his last hire if he's wrong so I don't really care who he chooses. From what I've read Clark has him on a short leash. I am more concerned about Stanzi and the QB situation than who the head coach is right now. If Pioli misfires it's getting blown up again anyway.

610 broke it...

we've learned the Patriot way only works with a Great QB.

FYP

Cliff Notes:

1. No Chiefs news whatsoever. No leaks or rumors of a firing.
2. KC website announces Haley is gone. Press conference in 3 hours.
3. Every reporter suddenly has inside info from the last 3 years, stories include, but are not limited to: Haley hated T Jax pick, it was Haley who took Cassel under his wing and developed and believed in him, Weis refused to develop Cassel, Haley was a monumental prick to Bowe which caused Bowe to go to Pioli and complain, Pioli went to Todd and told him to stop being a dick to players whose contracts the team is trying to extend, Pioli is tied to the hip with Cassel, McD & Ferentz are likely HC candidates.
4. Press conference occurs. Clark seems calm with underlying anger. Pioli looks uneasy, moreso than he ever has in front of the camera. Blame the firing on a lack of consistency. Get asked a bunch of lame questions. No answers.
5. All of the inside leaks and info stops like you are turning off a drain.

Mass hysteria ensues at the Planet. The end.

Even with a cupcake schedule that's still a heck of an accomplishment with Cassel involved. -Matt Cassel needs Jerry Sandusky.

"Guru" and "genius" are are the product of the talent that plays for them on the field.

Billick was never able to bring his "genius" to Baltimore, because Ozzie Newsome never came close to providing him with the talent that he worked with in Minnesota..

In Baltimore, had mediocre skill position players, especially at QB, except RB, an outstanding O-Line to block for that RB, and one of the best defenses in the NFL.

He adapted.

The thing that separated him from guys like Marty and Jeff Fisher, was that he was not afraid to take a risk in the effort to reach the SB.

Where Fisher simply got lucky to win a hard fought contest with Music City Miracle, Brian Billick, in a low scoring hard fought game took a chance.

In a situation that Marty and Fisher would simply have run the ball 3 times and punted, Billick from the Ravens 12 yard line, with a medicre Trent Dilfer, ran slant play that caught the Raiders off guard, and it turned into an 88 yard TD pass.

Tight sphincters, in all probability, lose that game.

GREAT post.

They do on the CP. . .

I certainly don't think Fisher is as aggressive as someone like Sean Payton... but he's not Marty either. People equate physical football to Martyball. Just because he ran the ball a lot, his teams would still take shots downfield, take risks, throw in a surprise onside kick or trick play. I don't think a Marty team would've tried the music city miracle play. Fisher also had success with 1st round QBs, even Young who he didn't want. To me Fisher is closer to Rex Ryan than Marty.
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Simpsons?