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BossChief 04-27-2012 04:54 PM

Carl didnt draft Neil Smith.

We traded up one spot (losing a second rounder iirc) to draft him at 3 in 88.

chop 04-27-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8573999)
yep.

the one player you left out that stands out to me was Will Shields.

I included him in the Olineman but here are some more (some repeats):

Branden Albert
Brandon Flowers
Jamaal Charles
Brandon Carr
Dwayne Bowe
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson
Jared Allen
Larry Johnson
John Tait
Gary Stills
Tony Gonzalez
Jerome Woods
Reggie Tongue
Donnie Edwards
Joe Horn
Will Shields
Dale Carter
Tim Grunhard
David Szott
Derrick Thomas
Neil Smith

notorious 04-27-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572420)


Bowe is a good WR, nothing more, nothing less.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572494)
No. Bowe is clearly average. Notorious said so. Cut him.

:facepalm:

chop 04-27-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8574022)
Carl didnt draft Neil Smith.

We traded up one spot (losing a second rounder iirc) to draft him at 3 in 88.

I think you are correct. Neil Smith was before DT. DT was his first draft.

Rausch 04-27-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 8574033)
I think you are correct. Neil Smith was before DT. DT was his first draft.

IIRC he landed Okoye and DT in 89.

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8574405)
IIRC he landed Okoye and DT in 89.

Okoye was drafted in 87

Ultra Peanut 04-27-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572420)
LOL.


Bowe is a good WR, nothing more, nothing less. One thing is certain, he is not worth top 5 money.

http://i.imgur.com/CWfGh.gif

notorious 04-27-2012 08:25 PM

So what is he?


Great - No ****ing way

Very Good - On the some of the days he doesn't disappear

Good - Most of the time

BigRedChief 04-27-2012 08:28 PM

I call BS on this rumor.

qabbaan 04-27-2012 08:29 PM

They are giving Bowe the Carr treatment, like they plan to play hardball with him and then end up losing him next offseason...

Chiefaholic 04-27-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8575893)
They are giving Bowe the Carr treatment, like they plan to play hardball with him and then end up losing him next offseason...

If Bowe thinks he's worth Fitzgerard or Calvin Johnson's money, he's nucking futs. These two are in a different level as to how they change the defensive coordinators plans. a 5/50 to 5/60 contract is what I see as his true value.

tredadda 04-27-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8573905)
At least Carl won a playoff game in his first five seasons.

Pioli will never win a playoff game here. He won't come close.

He won 3 playoff games in 20 YEARS!!!!! Also he drafted 0 QB's in the first round in 20 YEARS! Carl was awful. He had some good teams but his overall performance over the past 20 years is pathetic for a GM with almost absolute power.

qabbaan 04-27-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8575924)
If Bowe thinks he's worth Fitzgerard or Calvin Johnson's money, he's nucking futs. These two are in a different level as to how they change the defensive coordinators plans. a 5/50 to 5/60 contract is what I see as his true value.

I have never seen any indication he thinks he is a top 3 receiver. Never seen any contract demands either. The front office just doesn't seem interested in paying him market rate to stay around. Is this the Patriot way, doing it without any real star receivers? Maybe. Just as soon as we get our Brady I'll be excited about that.

Bowe should be given a fair, top 10 contract and resigned to a long term deal.

tredadda 04-27-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8575985)
I have never seen any indication he thinks he is a top 3 receiver. Never seen any contract demands either. The front office just doesn't seem interested in paying him market rate to stay around. Is this the Patriot way, doing it without any real star receivers? Maybe. Just as soon as we get our Brady I'll be excited about that.

Bowe should be given a fair, top 10 contract and resigned to a long term deal.

This

Brock 04-27-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8575851)
So what is he?


Great - No ****ing way

Very Good - On the some of the days he doesn't disappear

Good - Most of the time

Put him on a team with a non-pants-shitting QB and see what happens.


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