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KCUnited 04-30-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8583379)
I like Silver, but he's obviously not a fan of Pioli's based on his post-Haley firing articles (he likes Haley and texts the guy often). So not surprising that he'd be down on the Chiefs.

His ranking was all Cassel driven. Silver could post here with his recognition of what Matt Cassel is.

Buckweath 04-30-2012 03:28 PM

Even with Tyler Palko under center for a whole season, this team is not the 28th best in the league. Improved Oline, the return of Berry, Charles, Moeaki, and probably not as unlucky regarding injuries this year, Peyton Hillis who has a lot to prove, and most importantly, a young defense that`s ready to become elite IMO, 28th?? Are you kidding me?


QB is by far the most important position in football but I hate when people make it sound like it`s really the only position that matters. A team is more than just a QB really.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8583366)
Who won 10 games in 2010, with fewer weapons...

Orton > Cassel.

Cassel would not have thrown for 300 yards against Green Bay.

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 8583409)
Even with Tyler Palko under center for a whole season, this team is not the 28th best in the league. Improved Oline, the return of Berry, Charles, Moeaki, and probably not as unlucky regarding injuries this year, Peyton Hillis who has a lot to prove, and most importantly, a young defense that`s ready to become elite IMO, 28th?? Are you kidding me?


QB is by far the most important position in football but I hate when people make it sound like it`s really the only position that matters. A team is more than just a QB really.

This is all true, for the most part, but we're not winning a SB without a solid QB.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583384)
Clay has gone full reerun

What's reeruned about looking at our schedule, and seeing an absence of:

Caleb Hanie
Tim Tebow
Kyle Boller
Curtis Painter
Donovan McNabb?

I don't think were the 28th best team in the league. But to think we're a lock for 10-6, when we have the worst QB in the division, can't beat the Raiders and are now counting on three recently torn ACLs to be rock solid....well, that's just homer talk.

7-9, perhaps 8-8 if we get another miracle from Philip Rivers.

Buckweath 04-30-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583419)
Orton > Cassel.

Cassel would not have thrown for 300 yards against Green Bay.

We`re talking about the 2010 season.

That`s right, last time Cassell played a full season with this team, two years ago, the Chiefs were arguably a top 10-15 team in the league. Now, you`re going to tell me that the supporting cast is worse than in 2010??

Sure Charlie Weiss might have helped but come on now..

ChiefsCountry 04-30-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583384)
Clay has gone full reerun

No shit.

Titty Meat 04-30-2012 03:37 PM

I like how people on here pretend 2010 was a super bowl year.

That year we needed San Diego to shit themselves and Denver was horrible. We're playing the NFC South and AFC North which had 3 playoff teams last year. That's not exactly the AFC South and NFC West of 2010.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583370)
I don't care what Orton did in that game.

You should. 300-yard games are rare in KC.

Titty Meat 04-30-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 8583422)
We`re talking about the 2010 season.

That`s right, last time Cassell played a full season with this team, two years ago, the Chiefs were arguably a top 10-15 team in the league. Now, you`re going to tell me that the supporting cast is worse than in 2010??

Sure Charlie Weiss might have helped but come on now..

Let's see how Charles knee is. We know we won't win games throwing the ball 3-16.

htismaqe 04-30-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583419)
Orton > Cassel.

Cassel would not have thrown for 300 yards against Green Bay.

And?

Cassel WON 10 GAMES IN 2010.

He's a shit QB and this team was still good enough to make the playoffs. That's pretty ****ing sad in and of itself but it strongly suggests that you're wrong.

Buckweath 04-30-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583420)
This is all true, for the most part, but we're not winning a SB without a solid QB.

Of course. I`ve said before that the very minimum to win a Superbowl is to have a Joe Flacco caliber QB.

htismaqe 04-30-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8583425)
I like how people on here pretend 2010 was a super bowl year.

That year we needed San Diego to shit themselves and Denver was horrible. We're playing the NFC South and AFC North which had 3 playoff teams last year. That's not exactly the AFC South and NFC West of 2010.

They still won 10 games, with arguably one of the worst QBs in the league.

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583421)
What's reeruned about looking at our schedule, and seeing an absence of:

Caleb Hanie
Tim Tebow
Kyle Boller
Curtis Painter
Donovan McNabb?

I don't think were the 28th best team in the league. But to think we're a lock for 10-6, when we have the worst QB in the division, can't beat the Raiders and are now counting on three recently torn ACLs to be rock solid....well, that's just homer talk.

7-9, perhaps 8-8 if we get another miracle from Philip Rivers.

We weren't the only team who played/beat those QBs, genious.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 8583422)
That`s right, last time Cassell played a full season with this team, two years ago, the Chiefs were arguably a top 10-15 team in the league.

Sure looked like it in the playoffs.


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