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BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8874368)
He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.
You do know that this IS a passing league, right?

You need talent at the 5th DB, right?

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874389)
1996 called.

They want their post back.
LOL

Hammock Parties 09-03-2012 02:43 PM
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.

Marcellus 09-03-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874476)
**** that.

I want to see gifd up
So you expect to win?

BossChief 09-03-2012 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8874482)
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8874482)
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.

BossChief 09-03-2012 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8874487)
So you expect to win?
I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.

Marcellus 09-03-2012 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8874489)
You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.
5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?

Marcellus 09-03-2012 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874491)
I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.
I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8874493)
5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?
:) I meant DB

Marcellus 09-03-2012 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8874503)
:) I meant DB
Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8874510)
Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.
Clay is trolling his using Pioli hate. He HAS to know the value of a solid nickel vs todays passing game.

I'm no fan of Scott's, but that's because of Cassel.

Frankie 09-03-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8874482)
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
To be fair, he was valued for his return abilities as well. I agree, we could have gotten him in the 3rd (maybe not 4th) but he was valued both as a DB and a returner.

Frankie 09-03-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8874495)
I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.
Clay is undervalued around here the same way he undervalues Arenas.

BossChief 09-03-2012 03:07 PM
He also subsidizes the pass rush.


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