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Dunerdr 03-11-2014 10:55 AM

So because there's no rumors of fa talks we assume this is a complete rebuild from now on?

-King- 03-11-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10480002)
Why does it matter?

The point is that the line is losing considerable continuity. That's never a good thing. Never.

Losing 7 games of continuity? Really? If we can't get a guard to play as good as or better than Schwartz, we have a bigger problem. He's started 26 games in 6 years for a reason.
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htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10480012)
So because there's no rumors of fa talks we assume this is a complete rebuild from now on?

What else can we do? We can only discuss what we know and then speculate.

Should we just not talk about it?

Rainbows and unicorns! Chiefs rule!

saphojunkie 03-11-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10479972)
So you're expecting to get another how many years out of Smith?

Certainly, QBs last longer than some other positions. But 38-year old QBs performing at a high level isn't the norm...

I would expect 5-6 years of Smith playing at this level, barring injury. And that's about as long of a contract as he should get.

Realistically, I think you're looking at a 6 year deal worth around 70 million, and we will not see that through.

I would like to him signed through 2019 and draft his replacement in the first round sooner rather than later.

I really do think that having a stable, capable quarterback was vital to other players' development as well. I have no idea how the hell you evaluate OL or WR or TE or RB when you have Brady Quinn and Tyler Palko slugging it out.

We needed someone that the team could look at and say "I'm not just taking a pounding for nothing. We can actually win a game." Alex Smith was a very stabilizing presence for a team that had really been in crisis for a few years. Hopefully, that continues, but Dorsey realizes that he will have to re-up his investment at QB in the form of an early round draft pick.

I mean, if Reid can replicate finding Foles in the second round, sitting him for a year to learn, and then having a guy ready to take over... I'm happy as shit.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10480013)
Losing 7 games of continuity? Really? If we can't get a guard to play as good as or better than Schwartz, we have a bigger problem. He's started 26 games in 6 years for a reason.
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It's not just about Schwartz.

The line finally started to gel towards the end of the season.

Now we're looking at two new tackles, a new guard, potentially a new center.

You can't have that much turnover and expect to succeed, at least not right away.

OldSchool 03-11-2014 10:58 AM

Paying top 5 money to a slot corner that can't even adequately cover #1 WRs and had all of 7 PDefs last season.:clap: Only the Chiefs.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10480016)
but Dorsey realizes that he will have to re-up his investment at QB in the form of an early round draft pick.

You hope he does.

mcaj22 03-11-2014 10:59 AM

yea Reids not finding another Foles

saphojunkie 03-11-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10480022)
You hope he does.

Yeah, I was trying to say that. "Hopefully... Dorsey realizes..."

The Franchise 03-11-2014 11:00 AM

They'd better ****ing sign Houston before the beginning of next year. Otherwise say goodbye because they'll let themselves get outbid.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10480023)
yea Reids not finding another Foles

Reid isn't finding anybody. Dorsey is running the draft.

OldSchool 03-11-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10480033)
They'd better ****ing sign Houston before the beginning of next year. Otherwise say goodbye because they'll let themselves get outbid.

They would probably release Hali and tag Houston if it came down to it.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10480045)
They would probably release Hali and tag Houston if it came down to it.

Well if that's the case, I'm glad they locked up Frank Zombo.

DaWolf 03-11-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10480033)
They'd better ****ing sign Houston before the beginning of next year. Otherwise say goodbye because they'll let themselves get outbid.

I'm guessing that's why they are letting most of these guys walk. They have faith in some of their younger guys, and they need to get Houston and Poe and Berry extended, and probably rework Charles' deal since he's pretty underpaid (and will likely want to get it reworked)...

RunKC 03-11-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10480033)
They'd better ****ing sign Houston before the beginning of next year. Otherwise say goodbye because they'll let themselves get outbid.

Ever think that this is why they aren't overpaying for a journeymen guard?


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