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jd1020 03-25-2014 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10515304)
There was a Pro-bowl LT on the roster.

Are you suggesting we play Albert at G, or RT?
I think what most people are suggesting is that you dont make that pick at 1.1 with a pro-bowl LT already on the roster.

htismaqe 03-25-2014 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10515308)
Judging rookies after one year is always the logical thing to do ROFL
ROFL

beach tribe 03-25-2014 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515303)
Completely different things.

On one end: You're taking a "safe" player at 1.1 overall to play him at RT for a year and then slide him to LT to replace a good player.

On the other: You're giving the LT spot to that same safe player despite him being extremely disappointing as a rookie and being outplayed overall by another young player on the roster.
He was basically given the RT spot, and if Albert had been here he would have been given the LT spot.

Every team does it. The ONLY reason he played RT is because the team failed to trade Albert.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2014 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515283)
The Chiefs didn't. They started him at RIGHT tackle.
They started him there because they were not able to trade Albert. They should have told Albert to STFU and play LG IMO. Instead they choose the higher road to keep the locker room in good spirits. Probably a good move on their part in all reality. The only draw back is that some fans are not capable of understanding what was asked of Fisher and that it was a short term solution from the very beginning.

O.city 03-25-2014 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10515304)
There was a Pro-bowl LT on the roster.

Are you suggesting we play Albert at G, or RT?
Are you serious?

There's a simple easy answer here guys. It's "don't draft this guy"

The Franchise 03-25-2014 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10515306)
Wow.

We've gone from "no problem handing him the job without any competition based solely on being 1.1" to "he shouldn't have even started last year, he clearly wasn't ready."

Interesting twist. He's good enough to be 1.1 and be handed a job, but not good enough to start in his rookie season.

LMAO
And this is where I'll bring up the QB topic. People argued forever that you can't take a QB at 1.1 and sit him for a year behind Alex Smith. But we probably should have benched our 1.1 LT because he was from a small school and wasn't ready.

ROFL

htismaqe 03-25-2014 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10515316)
He was basically given the RT spot, and if Albert had been here he would have been given the LT spot.

Every team does it. The ONLY reason he played RT is because the team failed to trade Albert.
Which implies a lack of forethought on their part.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2014 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515294)
ROFL
Your contribution today has been hilarious. It is nice to see that you can laugh at your own stupidity.

O.city 03-25-2014 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10515308)
Judging rookies after one year is always the logical thing to do ROFL
But geno sucks right?

The Franchise 03-25-2014 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10515317)
They started him there because they were not able to trade Albert. They should have told Albert to STFU and play LG IMO. Instead they choose the higher road to keep the locker room in good spirits. Probably a good move on their part in all reality. The only draw back is that some fans are not capable of understanding what was asked of Fisher and that it was a short term solution from the very beginning.
No....they should have taken what they could get for Albert.....or you know....actually ****ing pay the guy that was playing the LT position already.

beach tribe 03-25-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10515311)
I think what most people are suggesting is that you dont make that pick at 1.1 with a pro-bowl LT already on the roster.
You do when that LT's contract is up and wants 10mil per. season.

duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10515297)
Our 1.1 needs every snap he can get to maximize his and our chance of success. Then if he struggles bad enough they'll do something different. I mean if they were damming the torpedoes in regards to playing Fisher playing LT they would have forced him into it last year. Relax it's only March.
Fisher played RT over Stephenson for much of last year despite being an inferior player. Why would I relax considering that history?

They have had a clear vision since drafting Fisher 1.1 overall.

1) Draft Fisher
2) Let Albert walk
3) Play Fisher at LT and profit

There have been no indications they will waiver from that vision.

BigMeatballDave 03-25-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515310)
Tap out acknowledged.
LOL

Do you really think I'm saying that Fisher should have started ahead of Albert?

Largely does not mean always.

RealSNR 03-25-2014 10:23 AM
If the Chiefs were going to play wait-and-see games with Albert like this, they should have drafted DJ Fluker at 1.1 and given themselves an entire offseason to watch both Albert AND Donald Stephenson. If they like Stephenson, let Albert walk the next season. If they don't, then they re-sign Albert next year for his money and move on. Or find another replacement in free agency.

The ****ery that went on with Fisher's position change is only further complicating matters. It's unnecessary, and the Chiefs made this far more difficult than it needs to be.

Yes, people would have wrecked shit if Fluker had been the pick, but at least it's a firm decision, you're actually GETTING a great player at his natural position, and it's not like the Chiefs already didn't **** the fanbase over with the Alex Smith trade.

Stephenson Allen Hudson Poop**** Fluker

Is a lot more sturdy than

Fisher Allen Hudson Poop**** Stephenson

htismaqe 03-25-2014 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10515317)
They started him there because they were not able to trade Albert. They should have told Albert to STFU and play LG IMO. Instead they choose the higher road to keep the locker room in good spirits. Probably a good move on their part in all reality. The only draw back is that some fans are not capable of understanding what was asked of Fisher and that it was a short term solution from the very beginning.
Do you not see the gap in your statement?

OF COURSE, we recognize it was a short-term solution from the very beginning.

That's the ENTIRE ARGUMENT the past 2 weeks.

Everything about last year was "short term".

Now all of the sudden this year, they're "building for the future" and we're supposed to be happy about it and trust them.

The circular logic here is hilarious.


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