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KCTitus 11-03-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862411)
10 and 6. 5th seed.


Put your tenure here at CP on it.

Ha! That's pretty optimistic! Love it...

TEX 11-03-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862346)
No, I'm good.



Well, for ****s sake...forgive me for using the wrong term. I really dont GAF what it's called, I dont want the QB that plays for a college school that is the 'best athlete' on the field that typically bails out his team with a scramble, pull the ball down and run for the TD, cause that shit doesnt work in the NFL. I would prefer a QB who plays in a system and in a way that works in the NFL...those types of QB's that have to use their teammates rather than their other worldly speed to win games have more success in the league called the NFL.

Yep. Just ask the Titans...

Vince Young = Bad
Marcus Mariota = Good

I think they learned the difference (And their original owner died).

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862377)
Well, did we move the ball against the Broncos defense this year?

I'd be curious to see where we stand in line with their other opponents in terms of offensive production.

The Donks have only played 2 winning teams all year - the Vikings and Packers.

I don't think they've given up 3 TD's all year...

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862410)
Ok...I dont have any argument with that. I'm not willing to assign some sort of narrative or motive in that regard. I was curious if you had some sort of inside information in regard to behind the scenes because I dont really believe the 'butts in seats' meme.

Oh, I think Clark wants to win he just has no clue how...

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862407)
Supposedly great WR? So I'm guessing your on the side that he isn't an improvement over Bowe, but thats a separate argument.

It took 5 turnovers for their to be any semblance of an excuse and a loss that day. Blame that on the coaching staff, players, etc however, but from the eye test, the Chiefs had a conference contender beat at home. Of course, this doens't match your natural tendency here at CP, so spin it however I guess.

Either way, at some point you've got to start winning said games, but the Chiefs haven't so it is what it is.

Maclin is a superior athlete to Bowe and has put up better career statistics, but the team is 3-5 halfway through the year with Maclin when they were 5-3 through last season with Bowe.

Gee, funny how getting Maclin hasn't translated to more wins because he doesn't have the benefit of being flanked by DeSean Jackson or Jordan Matthews.

And KC had Denver beat but for those five turnovers.. but let's ignore 0-7 on 3rd downs. That doesn't hint at anything wrong with the offense at all, does it. Especially when that was indicative of a trend that spanned multiple games.

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862411)
10 and 6. 5th seed.


Put your tenure here at CP on it.

ROFL.


And no.

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862431)
Maclin is a superior athlete to Bowe and has put up better career statistics, but the team is 3-5 halfway through the year with Maclin when they were 5-3 through last season with Bowe.

Gee, funny how getting Maclin hasn't translated to more wins because he doesn't have the benefit of being flanked by DeSean Jackson or Jordan Matthews.

The problem is A) he's the only threat at WR on the field and B) a QB that won't go to him deep when he's wide open.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862431)
And KC had Denver beat but for those five turnovers.. but let's ignore 0-7 on 3rd downs. That doesn't hint at anything wrong with the offense at all, does it. Especially when that was indicative of a trend that spanned multiple games.

Stupid decisions by the HC led directly to two turnovers and 14 points. That's the game.

Kneel the ****ing ball and go in to the half with the lead.
Even if you don't do that you kneel the ball at the end of the game and give yourself a chance in OT.

KCTitus 11-03-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862429)
Oh, I think Clark wants to win he just has no clue how...

He's the owner...of course he has no clue how. That's what your GM and HC are for. It's ultimately up to Clark to find the best football minds he can and give them what they need to succeed. To date, I think he has done that.

Piloi was considered 'the guy' and he went and got him. He realized that was a cluster**** and then replaced him with another regime and changed the reporting structure.

I'm not hating on Clark for the fact it's not working out...so far to me, he's done his job.

O.city 11-03-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862414)
We're beating everyone but the Broncos? Or do you have us beating the Broncos and losing to someone else?

Oh no, I thinkk theyll go full chiefs and do what discuss said but I think it'll be more chiefstacular. Lose the last weekend to go 8 and 8 or something and miss the olayoffs.

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862440)
I'm not hating on Clark for the fact it's not working out...so far to me, he's done his job.

The only time a HC should ever be told "no matter what you have a job next year" is after winning a SB.

O.city 11-03-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862431)
Maclin is a superior athlete to Bowe and has put up better career statistics, but the team is 3-5 halfway through the year with Maclin when they were 5-3 through last season with Bowe.

Gee, funny how getting Maclin hasn't translated to more wins because he doesn't have the benefit of being flanked by DeSean Jackson or Jordan Matthews.

And KC had Denver beat but for those five turnovers.. but let's ignore 0-7 on 3rd downs. That doesn't hint at anything wrong with the offense at all, does it. Especially when that was indicative of a trend that spanned multiple games.

Hold on, no no no. You don't get to use wins and losses as a player statistic. That's hypocritical at best after all the smith blasting you've spewe'd towards those idiots.

You saying it hasn't translated to more wins has zero correlation to Maclin's effect on the offense. Faulty logic.

Maclin is one pace for what, over 1000 yards and 5 tds?

The Franchise 11-03-2015 03:43 PM

Through the first 7 games.....Maclin has:

42 receptions
566 yards
2 TDs

Through the first 7 games of last season....Maclin had:

39 receptions
632 yards
6 TDs

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862449)
Through the first 7 games.....Maclin has:

42 receptions
566 yards
2 TDs

Through the first 7 games of last season....Maclin had:

39 receptions
632 yards
6 TDs

His catches were also further down the field. Philly isn't afraid to air it out with any QB behind center...

O.city 11-03-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862449)
Through the first 7 games.....Maclin has:

42 receptions
566 yards
2 TDs

Through the first 7 games of last season....Maclin had:

39 receptions
632 yards
6 TDs

He's only played 6 games

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862439)
The problem is A) he's the only threat at WR on the field and B) a QB that won't go to him deep when he's wide open.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11541690)
Or how Maclin isn't getting open enough.

Or because Albert Wilson / Chris Conley aren't credible enough receivers to draw coverage away from Maclin.

... saw that one coming....


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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862439)
Stupid decisions by the HC led directly to two turnovers and 14 points. That's the game.

Kneel the ****ing ball and go in to the half with the lead.
Even if you don't do that you kneel the ball at the end of the game and give yourself a chance in OT.

No argument that those decisions directly lead to the game being lost, but 0-7 on 3rd down. Again. Isn't the job of supposedly one of the best offensive-minded HCs in the league with his handpicked veteran QB with almost a decade of starting experience joined up with a playmaking WR, TE and Hall of Fame RB supposed to offer some sort of edge against great defenses?

I mean the Chiefs' defense was pretty good last year but an offensive minded HC in Arians managed to get a win with Drew Stanton at QB, and Denver had no trouble sweeping last year either.

So which is it: are good defenses invulnerable or is it within the realm of possibility to expect your coaching staff and the offensive skill players you have available to make plays and negate the advantages a good defense offers.


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