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RunKC 03-14-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782532)
So this deal went from a 'meh' in my book to officially goddamn reeruned.

Congrats, Dorsey - you've offered a contract with absolutely ZERO upside baked into it. The absolute best case scenario is that you pay $8 million for 60% of your defensive snaps to be covered by a solid run-stopper...in an era where teams are passing more than ever and your offense can't win in a shootout.

So next season we'll be paying our 3rd safety, backup T, 2-down nose (and potential backup Nose if Howard and Bailey are healthy) and Punter about $19 million.

We're also giving Alex Smith $9 million more than we'd have had to give Nick Foles for virtually identical production.

Dorsey's had a shit offseason. The LDT signing is fine (seriously, look at what the OL market did this off-season, that contract is reasonable), the Berry extension is okay given the contracts given out to far lesser players like Reshad Jones.

But that's $18 million in cap space set ablaze for rotational players, backups and !@#$ing punters all because Dorsey and Reid are risk-averse. That money is ****ing gone and in 2 years when we're trying to figure out how to retain Peters, Jones or Hill - remember the $18 million we don't have in rollover because we just had to spend it on guys that will play 50% of the time or on special teams.

That's all this is - they're spending scared right now; they don't want to draft someone to replace these part-time players and have them not work out then try to cover the hole on the fly (y'know - actually coach). For ****'s sake, they couldn't even 'risk' a change from Smith to Foles even though Smith showed nothing to suggest that there's a next step for him to take and the offense showed no decline under Foles.

Dorsey's tendency towards drafting a year ahead is coming into sharp focus. We've seen it at pro-active but you can just as easily see it as being defensive. He has to have his replacement in-house for a season before he's going to take that risk.

So you know what that means? That there is a ZERO percent chance that Smith is gone before 2018 if we don't take a QB in this draft. Absolutely zero. He and Reid will not start a rookie QB. They're too risk averse.

This is a stupid mother****ing use of resources. Absolutely insane.

I don't agree with this signing either bc it screams need and overpaying. They know they can't find a NT in the draft so they blew a shit load on this guy.
They know it's now or never. They are going to ride this Alex Smith train into the ****ing ground if they have to. Andy really believes he can get to the SB with Alex. He really does.

There are only 2 good things about this:

1. It's only one year.
2. We didn't pay Poe $10+ million.

Next month will tell us all we need to know. If they don't draft a QB in the first 2 rds and get the same mid rd crap developmental player, I'll be golfing on Sunday's this fall instead of watching this team.

O.city 03-14-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782574)
Embrace the terror.

They'll just ****ing re-structure Smith.

You know it's the obvious route. This off-season has exposed some serious chickenshit tendencies from Dorsey.

I don't think so. I'm gonna go full benefit of the doubt here.

I think they'll take a qb early in this draft. It may not be who we want, but they're gonna take one and said guy will be the starter next year. Freeing up money from Smith's deal, and colquitt will be gone.

Surely.

O.city 03-14-2017 11:15 AM

A 1 year prove it deal with that much $ doesn't really make sense to me. He's gotta play really well to get any surplus there.

RunKC 03-14-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12782587)
A 1 year prove it deal with that much $ doesn't really make sense to me. He's gotta play really well to get any surplus there.

They are going all in and are extremely desperate.

The Franchise 03-14-2017 11:17 AM

If they extend or restructure Smith.....then Reid needs to go. There is no way that he can watch last year and think that he can win with that piece of shit.

O.city 03-14-2017 11:18 AM

I dunno, Benny Logan doesn't scream all in. If they were doing that, give Brandon williams a big deal.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2017 11:18 AM

Let's see the corresponding moves first. It's questionable on the surface, but until we see what the big plan here is, I'll wait on freaking out.

Sandy Vagina 03-14-2017 11:19 AM

I like Logan, but this amount is rather insane. I would expect more of a 3-4 mil per yr max deal.. not 1 yr for 8. Not for Logan.. and not with Howard back from injury.

Not a fan right now of a Smith extension. CP would be hilarious to read, but no. At age 32... with the concussions.. and the unwillingness to play with more aggression... no.

raybec 4 03-14-2017 11:19 AM

Maybe they try and reach an injury settlement with DJ

Mother****erJones 03-14-2017 11:19 AM

This signing screams all in? Enlighten me. Signing Williams from BAL and Hightower from NE would scream all in.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12782582)
I don't think so. I'm gonna go full benefit of the doubt here.

I think they'll take a qb early in this draft. It may not be who we want, but they're gonna take one and said guy will be the starter next year. Freeing up money from Smith's deal, and colquitt will be gone.

Surely.

They'll ****ing extend Colquitt.

The guy should've been gone TWO seasons ago. He's just a goddamn punter. Daniel should've been gone last year but Reid was terrified of having to use a backup. I mean just look at all the money that's been torched, not just on injured guys but on surperflous luxury players like Chase Daniel and Dustin Colquitt.

People grouse about the Chiefs waiting too long to sign Houston or Berry but that's not even the biggest problem, the problem is that they're going to be lugging around tens of millions in cap space that could've been offset by rollovers created through moving on from guys who simply aren't worth their production and were kept on the roster out of pure fear.

It's a good way to end up with a .500 ballclub in short order.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12782601)
I like Logan, but this amount is rather insane. I would expect more of a 3-4 mil max per yr max deal.. not 1 yr for 8. Not for Logan.. and not with Howard back from injury.

Not a fan right now of a Smith extension. CP would be hilarious to read, but no. At age 32... with the concussions.. and the unwillingness to play with more aggression... no.

I'll disown this ****ing team is they extend him.

O.city 03-14-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782604)
They'll ****ing extend Colquitt.

The guy should've been gone TWO seasons ago. He's just a goddamn punter. Daniel should've been gone last year but Reid was terrified of having to use a backup. I mean just look at all the money that's been torched, not just on injured guys but on surperflous luxury players like Chase Daniel and Dustin Colquitt.

People grouse about the Chiefs waiting too long to sign Houston or Berry but that's not even the biggest problem, the problem is that they're going to be lugging around tens of millions in cap space that could've been offset by rollovers created through moving on from guys who simply aren't worth their production and were kept on the roster out of pure fear.

It's a good way to end up with a .500 ballclub in short order.

They've been afraid to walk away from some guys for sure. Hali, dj, etc.

Seems they have a few blindspots.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12782600)
Let's see the corresponding moves first. It's questionable on the surface, but until we see what the big plan here is, I'll wait on freaking out.

Why?

What brilliant goddamn move can be made to justify setting $8 million on fire for a 2-down, potential backup NT?

Because even if they convince Houston, Smith, DJ and Hali to all take voluntary paycuts and just donate money back to the cap, that money is STILL not being wisely spent on Logan. And in a rollover era when every dollar you spend literally has impacts on the cap in perpetuity because it costs you future cap credits, that's short-sighted and stupid.

Just a dumb, dumb decision.

ptlyon 03-14-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782574)
Embrace the terror.

ROFL. I love this line.


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