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Red Dawg 10-10-2017 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter Libby (Post 13138048)
The Watson hate on here has always been odd. He's a good QB once again SNR was wrong but what else is new?
Watson has done nothing to make him a good QB. You don't know anything until year 3. There was a time when Sanchez and Cassel we called good QBs. We made Watson look bad. He threw a bunch of luck balls all over when the game was lost. Take out those stats and he sucked.

jaa1025 10-10-2017 02:10 PM
Watson had like what 75 yards passing 3 minutes into the 4st quarter? He was largely ineffective. He was inaccurate and plain bad. When the Chiefs went into prevent defense with a 19 point lead he just threw bombs...and our secondary isn't the best without Berry back there. I don't get the Watson love. I'm so glad the Chiefs passed on him.

JakeF 10-10-2017 02:20 PM
We won't know until the young QBs try to take the next step.

MahiMike 10-10-2017 05:52 PM
Watson seems to have guys that can jump pretty well. But I haven't seen him throw a pro pass yet. Just lucky hail Mary's.

Kiimo 10-10-2017 05:57 PM
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-10-2017 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13141061)
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.
b00m! ROFL:clap:

Go easy son, the old vaginas 'round here haven't seen this kind of moistening since Carl Peterson brought the LAST Frisco Bitch to town.

BlackOp 10-10-2017 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13141061)
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.
In fairness..I've seen our potential "MVP" read defenses to the tune of the 4th best start for a QB in NFL history.

Mahomes couldn't have fallen into a better learning environment...he's watching his mentor have a career season and what he's doing to achieve it. ...so much good going on right now.

If Mahomes inherits 75% of Smith's clinical awareness...he'll be a monster.

PAChiefsGuy 10-10-2017 08:34 PM
Yes

RINGLEADER 10-10-2017 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13140731)
Watson had like what 75 yards passing 3 minutes into the 4st quarter? He was largely ineffective. He was inaccurate and plain bad. When the Chiefs went into prevent defense with a 19 point lead he just threw bombs...and our secondary isn't the best without Berry back there. I don't get the Watson love. I'm so glad the Chiefs passed on him.
Pat Kerwin (sp?) made this point on NFL Radio today. Basically Watson threw up 4 of what he called 50/50 passes. Thanks to some luck and good receiver play Watson got all 4 through some pretty decent coverage. If those 50/50 balls live up to their billing, however, he ends up with 45% completion percentage, around 160 yards, and the Texans lose by 20+.

Watson reminds me of Derek Carr - misses shorter throws badly, misreads coverages badly, but has some good receivers who are able to win battles on deep balls. Doesn't make him bad, per se, but as Kerwin said today you can't win a championship that way.

Maybe he learns how to play better -- but I wouldn't trade Mahomes for Watson even after the first month of this season.

Basileus777 10-10-2017 11:36 PM
The Texans are running a spread offense based around the option and Watson's main role as a passer is to chuck up jump balls against single coverage down the field. And he's been really inaccurate even in this limited role, which was always the main concern about him. He's shown good intangibles, but I still don't know that he'll even become a good starting QB in this league.

milkman 10-11-2017 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 13137757)
Mahomes was the right choice, but everything doesn’t have to be binary like we make it out to be on CP. Watson could turn out to be a fine player too.

I think what people are missing is that these “jump balls” were right where they needed to be - right on the receivers hands in most cases. The fact that the ball was placed so the receiver could use vertical space to make the catch and only his man could get the ball doesn’t make the throw meaningless. This is a legitimate NFL throw that great QBs have to be able to execute accurately, and he placed a several of them perfectly. Facing a defense so adept at forcing turnovers, throwing 5 TDs and no INTs means he was probably placing the ball very well down the field.

Smith, for now an MVP candidate, was less accurate down the field even in a game where he played well.

Nobody is saying Watson doesn’t have a long way to go yet before he’s arrived, but the pre-draft trash talk that he isn’t a legitimate NFL QB obviously is not looking too smart right now.
He threw up jump balls.
All he has to do is is throw it in the area so that his receiver can track it, get into position.
The is no real accuracy involved, and this just the stupidest take.

His guys won the jump balls.

That was it.

saphojunkie 10-11-2017 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13141356)
Yes
This is why you fail

Kiimo 10-11-2017 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13141348)
In fairness..I've seen our potential "MVP" read defenses to the tune of the 4th best start for a QB in NFL history.

Mahomes couldn't have fallen into a better learning environment...he's watching his mentor have a career season and what he's doing to achieve it. ...so much good going on right now.

If Mahomes inherits 75% of Smith's clinical awareness...he'll be a monster.

This season is proceeding precisely like I hoped and got put on blast for saying.

RippedmyFlesh 10-11-2017 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13142155)
He threw up jump balls.
All he has to do is is throw it in the area so that his receiver can track it, get into position.
The is no real accuracy involved, and this just the stupidest take.

His guys won the jump balls.

That was it.
That was what I saw at Clemson. Mike Williams owning people.

RealSNR 10-11-2017 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13141356)
Yes
Wanna know how I know you're an ultra butthurt moron about Chiefs fans not liking Alex Smith?


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