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Chief Northman 04-16-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14911244)
Schwartz is 30 years old and will be 31 when the season begins. He's shown no signs of slowing down or retiring. Guys like him can play at a high level well into their 30's.

I have no idea why you think the Chiefs *need* to make a decision on Fisher, either. He's 29 years old and again, shows no signs of slowing down.

I'd rather see the Chiefs pay Fisher for a few more years than draft a LT whom they'd need to pay $16 million or more in 3 years.

I ****ed up on Schwartz’s age - as you said he will be 31 in a few weeks. After the 2020 season, Fisher can be cut saving $11.5 million on the cap with just over $3 million in dead money (just under $15 million cap hit). That might go a ways in extending Mahomes/Jones. If you can get a sure-fire OT on a five year deal with the first few years being cheap, that is something KC has to be looking at.

I have nothing against the quality of play of Fisher/Schwartz, but eventually you have to plan for down the road.

DJ's left nut 04-16-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14911286)
I think Swift would be a good fit in this system, but the Dolphins will be picking for the 3rd time at 26 and the shitty running game was a big problem for them in 2019. Hard to know if he'll make it past them and the Ravens that have a run first mentality and the running game ended up failing them in the playoffs (yet again).

The Ravens can plug any ol' swinging dick into that system and get 1,200 yards out of him.

If they're smart they'll throw a nice 3-4 year deal at Gus Edwards while he's still fairly undervalued. He'd be a 4.75-5 YPC back of 225-250 carries pretty easily, IMO.

There's no need for them to throw a 1st rounder at a RB.

The Franchise 04-16-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14911314)
They also didn't have shit at RB. I can't see them taking 2 tackles in the first round.

I think they’d go Taylor over Swift in the first.

DJ's left nut 04-16-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14911315)
I feel a trade coming. We are tied with the Saints with the fewest draft picks

We have a pick in the first 5 rounds.

6th and 7th round picks are camp bodies and/or priority UDFA caliber players anyway for a championship caliber squad.

Just more national talking head nonsense. If the Chiefs had 2 picks each in the 6th and 7 rounds, nobody would be talking about how few picks we have and MAYBE 1 of those 4 guys would be on the 2021 roster (probably 2 at most on the 2020 roster).

The Chiefs don't need to trade down unless the value is there. If it isn't, stand pat. Quantity is great when you're the Dolphins and have half the picks in the 1st and 2nd round, but it doesn't mean shit past the 5th (and really, means very little after the 3rd).

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-16-2020 11:59 AM

I think we go CB in the second round. Alex Brown is an interesting player we have. Was good at special teams but never given a chance on defense

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach raving about CBs Antonio Hamilton and Alex Brown, said he believes team now has four deep at CB. <br><br>Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward, Rashad Fenton project as your top 3.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1250822086349783046?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-16-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14911314)
They also didn't have shit at RB. I can't see them taking 2 tackles in the first round.

A rebuilding team picking at the top of rounds gets better value going RB later...

Mecca 04-16-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14911338)
I think we go CB in the second round. Alex Brown is an interesting player we have. Was good at special teams but never given a chance on defense

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach raving about CBs Antonio Hamilton and Alex Brown, said he believes team now has four deep at CB. <br><br>Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward, Rashad Fenton project as your top 3.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1250822086349783046?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If he really likes Brown and Hamilton don't expect a high CB pick.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-16-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14911337)
We have a pick in the first 5 rounds.

6th and 7th round picks are camp bodies and/or priority UDFA caliber players anyway for a championship caliber squad.

Just more national talking head nonsense. If the Chiefs had 2 picks each in the 6th and 7 rounds, nobody would be talking about how few picks we have and MAYBE 1 of those 4 guys would be on the 2021 roster (probably 2 at most on the 2020 roster).

The Chiefs don't need to trade down unless the value is there. If it isn't, stand pat. Quantity is great when you're the Dolphins and have half the picks in the 1st and 2nd round, but it doesn't mean shit past the 5th (and really, means very little after the 3rd).

Oddly enough UDFA is what Veach does best at

DJ's left nut 04-16-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14911330)
I think they’d go Taylor over Swift in the first.

Taylor has taken a POUNDING.

I just don't see Veach going with a high mileage RB in the 1st round knowing full well that there's a 0% chance of giving him a 2nd contract.

It's just a bad use of a 1st round pick, IMO.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-16-2020 12:01 PM

I can see us taking a WR in round 1. I like Higgins and Jefferson

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach said the OL and WR position groups are probably the deepest and what he&#39;s excited about heading into the draft.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1250821232687267841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-16-2020 12:01 PM

UDFA is gonna throw out some gems this year, a bunch of guys that would normally get drafted won't especially non combine invites because the NFL is scared to pick dudes without a ton of info.

Mecca 04-16-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14911346)
Taylor has taken a POUNDING.

I just don't see Veach going with a high mileage RB in the 1st round knowing full well that there's a 0% chance of giving him a 2nd contract.

It's just a bad use of a 1st round pick, IMO.

This is why I'd never draft a Wisconsin RB, they all come out abused.

DJ's left nut 04-16-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14911343)
Oddly enough UDFA is what Veach does best at

He does it well, to be sure.

So why the hell does he need to go acquiring late round picks? He'll be able to fill the edges of the roster w/ UDFAs and cheap veterans looking to latch on in a good system and a winning program. Hell, he's found productive street FAs during the season. He's found contributors off waivers.

There's little/no utility in adding last day picks. Veach can use his resources far better elsewhere and has in the past.

Chief Northman 04-16-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14911348)
I can see us taking a WR in round 1. I like Higgins and Jefferson

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach said the OL and WR position groups are probably the deepest and what he&#39;s excited about heading into the draft.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1250821232687267841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he just said WR is deepest and you want a WR in round 1.

Got it.

BryanBusby 04-16-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14911340)
A rebuilding team picking at the top of rounds gets better value going RB later...

They finished off the year pretty strong and I think they're making a case to be competitive in 2020. The division is shit and they were pretty active in FA.

I wouldn't call it a rebuilding year.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14911325)
The Ravens can plug any ol' swinging dick into that system and get 1,200 yards out of him.

If they're smart they'll throw a nice 3-4 year deal at Gus Edwards while he's still fairly undervalued. He'd be a 4.75-5 YPC back of 225-250 carries pretty easily, IMO.

There's no need for them to throw a 1st rounder at a RB.

I like Gus but I don't think he's a lead back and I think Ingram is about to fall off a cliff.


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