Here is the thing about Toney. Of course you are going to expect him to have his head on straight for the first week he gets here. Hows he going to act when its the end of the season or faces adversity and EB bitches him out for something? His mental game is going to determine if he succeeds. We shall see.

It's definitely the honeymoon phase. However he has passed the first test with flying colors and considering what rep he had that was no guarantee at all. Couldn't be happier with what I've seen and heard.

I can hear Chris Berman in my head watching that clip - bwaaap!

Collinsworth loves him.


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Exactly.

Ha saw a clip of him making a block and de cleated a linebacker. Maybe Clay can find it. Impressive.

I kinda just want to say, "well duh?"

I mean Toney was a top-20 pick who the Giants thought about taking at 12 but took a chance in moving down a bit and still got him.

Moore went at what, 54? There are reasons for that. Moore has a really good toolbox and he was drafted with the full intent to replace Hardman in 2023. That's exactly the role he's built for.

Toney, on the other hand, is built to be a #1 WR if he puts it all together mentally. It's a comparison of apples to oranges man. It's like gauging the excitement this board would have had if the Chiefs drafted Jameson Williams in the 1st instead of Moore in the 2nd. Clearly better skill sets physically.

You really can't continue your silly rant against Moore in this context. He wasn't drafted to be an instant starter with the group in place this year and he wasn't drafted to be a #1 WR. He's shown some ability. Give him some time.

Honestly, I can't believe how much people here expect the instant superstar impact from draft picks. There are going to be warts early on. We got hordes saying Karlaftis sucks, McDuffie is a broke dick, Moore will never amount to shit, and Cook is a wasted pick because he didn't unseat a very good player in Juan Thornhill this season.

If you're expecting these rookies to be All-Pros, you're probably asking a bit much. Let them develop. These guys are 8 ****ing games into their careers.

Karlaftis actually is getting some pressure. Justin Houston is in the 100-sack club and was a very good player here. You know he didn't get his first sack until game 12 of his rookie year?

McDuffie was never injured in college, give him a chance. He was pretty locked in before the injury.

Moore is buried behind a few vets and learning the playbook. Some HOF-caliber WRs didn't have great starts to their careers. I mean, Steve Smith had 10 catches in his first season. And I don't care if he sucks at special teams, I'd rather he turns into a good WR.

Cook is most definitely the starter next year and functioning in the 3rd safety role and learning for now.

Deal is Hardman looked much better than Moore at the same point on their careers. Moore, often times, looks like he doesn't belong out there. We'll see how it goes, it's still early, but he certainly has not impressed this far.

Boy, you've set the bar pretty low for a 'rant'; it barely even qualified as commentary.

As for Moore - again, I'm not the one who was saying he'd be our WR1 this year or was the best WR in the draft. I'm the guy who's said all along that he's a likely solid contributor and decent role player out of the slot. That's it. I said that if he's ever your best WR, your WRs suck - and was met with great scorn.

If the standard you're setting as 'acceptable' is a replacement for Hardman's role as a gadget player, well you're a hell of a lot closer to MY side of this discussion than the majority of the folks in the Moore thread(s) have been. You've joined my 'rant' more than you've rebutted it.

Misrepresenting arguments and dramatizing people's positions.

Or in less delicate words, completely making shit up.

I suspect you and I are in his example file for those positions despite forwarding literally ZERO of them.

Don't be an angry person.

So is anyone else getting on YT asap everyday looking for brand new clips of Toney in practice? I can't be the only one . . .

Nah, but you're teetering rather close on a couple of them. You don't have a ringing endorsement of the Cook or Moore picks and you're not especially quiet about it, right? I'd say I'm pretty close, if not precise, on the Cook comment. Doesn't mean I think anything about you, I'm just saying give them some time. I understand your position but you go on some diatribe against Moore on pretty much a weekly basis.

I had the same position on Willie Gay but after I said my peace I didn't say much for a while. Looking back, I'd say I've been fairly correct. There's a non-zero chance you may be as well. At this point though, you're pretty much beating a dead horse. Let's see if the kid does anything over the next several weeks to develop.

I'll be honest RN - This guy is a GIGANTIC cheat code for this offense at the moment, I'm not especially worried about missing out on OBJ, I'm not sure this guy isn't almost as good - I mean - consider we've yet to see 11 or 9 top out. I've said it recently, but JuJu is only going to STILL get better.

Go watch Kadarius' Florida highlights. We don't need all world, we just need a 1st down machine mid fielder like this beautiful black man.

LFG Chiefs Kingdom!!