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O.city 11-18-2023 10:26 PM

He’s still really good. He should age well. Gonna have to go cheap at LT and rg tho

MahomesMagic 11-18-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17230142)
Here’s the problem.

1. Jones will be 30 next year.
2. He’s not a HOF player and has a very long way to go currently. What is your basis for him being a HOF player? I am using the Pro Football Reference HOF tracker and the average score for a HOF DT is 105. Jones is 43.93 (basically a 44), so he isn’t even half way towards that.
3. Von Miller is a HOF player right now as is Aaron Donald. Both signed huge contracts after 30 and both have failed to live up to them. Now who currently can you point to as a comparable to show that Jones won’t drop off and make his contract a bad one?
4. Again I am for keeping Jones as I have said time after time despite you overlooking it. I won’t do it for $30+ million a year. If you think Jones will sign another one year deal then you play far too many video games.
5. I never said over 30 players can’t be here and using Kelce/Thuney as examples shows the silliness of your argument. They are both signed. Jones is not beyond this year. Thuney plays a position that ages well. Jones does not. Kelce is on track to be one of if not the greatest TE ever and he also plays a position that ages well AND is taking well below market value. Jones, while good is not a HOF player right now, nor will he ever be considered one of the greatest ever at his position.
6. Once again you infer statements from me that I never said to validate your narrative. It’s sad really, but as always you do you. My point about you never being right continues and with each and every post of yours you continue to validate it. Great job. Looking forward to your inevitable downvote. You might be best served hanging out in your echo chamber in the DC where you can get validation for your opinions.


You just said I am "playing Madden" because I wanted to extend one HOF player for another year or two who is not 30.

Maybe next time just make a football point and don't create stupid rules because if I am "playing Madden" for extending a player that is currently under 30, what the hell is Veach doing paying Kelce and Thuney?

Von Miller contract that is appropriate would not be Buffalo but the Rams before that. They won the SB because of signing him. Buffalo deal was bad and not similar to extending Jones for another year or two.

Come up with better comps.

Chief Roundup 11-18-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17230152)
He’s still really good. He should age well. Gonna have to go cheap at LT and rg tho

That is why I thought they were trying to get up to draft Anton Harrison in this last draft. Rookie deals at prime positions.

O.city 11-18-2023 10:28 PM

Jones isn’t a hall of fame player. Borderline but not there yet.

tredadda 11-18-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17230147)
You have to be careful with that also. He is currently 31 and under contract through the age of 33. Redoing his contract is the reason his numbers are so high.

Honestly the best thing with Thuney is to bite the bullet next year and see about releasing him in 2025. I don’t think kicking the can down the road is wise.

O.city 11-18-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17230154)
That is why I thought they were trying to get up to draft Anton Harrison in this last draft. Rookie deals at prime positions.

Need the dude they drafted from Ou to play LT next year

Chief Roundup 11-18-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17230160)
Need the dude they drafted from Ou to play LT next year

Wanya Morris, I hope they have better luck with him than the other tackles they have drafted. It would be nice. It is either that or we move Taylor to LT and Morris to RT. I never like moving players when they have been successful. Far too often you make two places weak instead of one strong and one weak.

MahomesMagic 11-18-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17230156)
Jones isn’t a hall of fame player. Borderline but not there yet.

Two more years here he is in.

He is a HOF caliber player and Elite in a way that no one else on the defense is.

He also happens to be our best pass-rusher so if Jones wants to walk they should just take the money for him and let Sneed walk too and then just ensure the offense is elite.

We already won 2 SB's with elite offense and a good enough defense so that formula works here.

O.city 11-18-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17230169)
Wanya Morris, I hope they have better luck with him than the other tackles they have drafted. It would be nice. It is either that or we move Taylor to LT and Morris to RT. I never like moving players when they have been successful. Far too often you make two places weak instead of one strong and one weak.

Leave Taylor at RT

Morris ideally is really good but even if he’s just a league average LT, at that price point it’s huge value.

Chief Roundup 11-18-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17230170)
Two more years here he is in.

He is a HOF caliber player and Elite in a way that no one else on the defense is.

He also happens to be our best pass-rusher so if Jones wants to walk they should just take the money for him and let Sneed walk too and then just ensure the offense is elite.

We already won 2 SB's with elite offense and a good enough defense so that formula works here.

I would rather them let Sneed walk anyway. We have Nazeeh Johnson coming back next year. BV has proven to be able to draft good CB talent late in the draft. We are also more likely to get a better comp pick.

O.city 11-18-2023 10:35 PM

I’d give Jones money to chase young and a wr

tredadda 11-18-2023 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17230153)
You just said I am "playing Madden" because I wanted to extend one HOF player for another year or two who is not 30.

Maybe next time just make a football point and don't create stupid rules because if I am "playing Madden" for extending a player that is currently under 30, what the hell is Veach doing paying Kelce and Thuney?

Von Miller contract that is appropriate would not be Buffalo but the Rams before that. They won the SB because of signing him. Buffalo deal was bad and not similar to extending Jones for another year or two.

Come up with better comps.

LMAO you really do read only what you want. I said he is not a HOF and even gave you a reference. I asked you for one and you have nothing, hence why you ignored that. Jones is under 30 right now, not next year. The irony is you are expecting better comps without actually coming up with any when I asked because yet again you have nothing. Anyways I am done discussing this with you as I feel like I am talking football with someone who only roots for a team because their uniform is pretty. Downvote away.

Chief Roundup 11-18-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17230174)
Leave Taylor at RT

Morris ideally is really good but even if he’s just a league average LT, at that price point it’s huge value.

I am fine with that if it works out. Don't need an LT worse than Orlando Brown though.

tredadda 11-18-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17230178)
I would rather them let Sneed walk anyway. We have Nazeeh Johnson coming back next year. BV has proven to be able to draft good CB talent late in the draft. We are also more likely to get a better comp pick.

Honestly tag and trade Sneed. He will have a lot of value based on his age/versatility.

Chief Roundup 11-18-2023 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17230181)
I’d give Jones money to chase young and a wr

Don't really need a DE with Karlaftis, Omenihu, FAU, and hopefully Thompson. But we might get a Christian Wilkinson and a WR along with Gay or some of the other pieces that are FA or their equivalent in replacements.


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