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Mecca 03-05-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 17988475)
All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot

That isn't what the offense wants to do, Andy wants more guys out in the pattern.

Hoover 03-05-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17988459)
I really really doubt they are gonna put a young LT and a young LG side by side, I just don't see that.

I think playing Suamataia at LG between Tyron Smith and Creed could do wonders for his development, and you if all goes well he could still end up at LT.

I agree, I don't think the Chiefs want a rookie LT and Suamataia on the left side.

Signing a guy like Smith allow them to go into the draft and take the best talent. If a LT falls, take him, if its NT in round 1, take him. In this draft I just think they have to walk about with a DT, RB, and CB in their first four picks. If the other pick in the top 100 is a OT, S, LB, whatever, fine. I just don't want them to go in limited, and I don't want to go in to next season with what we basically had last season at LT.

Mecca 03-05-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17988478)
I think playing Suamataia at LG between Tyron Smith and Creed could do wonders for his development, and you if all goes well he could still end up at LT.

I agree, I don't think the Chiefs want a rookie LT and Suamataia on the left side.

Signing a guy like Smith allow them to go into the draft and take the best talent. If a LT falls, take him, if its NT in round 1, take him. In this draft I just think they have to walk about with a DT, RB, and CB in their first four picks. If the other pick in the top 100 is a OT, S, LB, whatever, fine. I just don't want them to go in limited, and I don't want to go in to next season with what we basically had last season at LT.

What they really need to do is get a spot to just take the best players in the draft..

It would really suck to not be able to take someone like Burden or Starks because we have to fill a need.

SAGA45 03-05-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17988438)
Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.

I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.

nychief 03-05-2025 11:34 AM

Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Iconic 03-05-2025 11:39 AM

yep. as said before - veach was not going to play the tag game with trey if he didn't think the dice would roll his way.

get a deal done with trey. net a 4th. keep the younger asset. profit. what a great start to the off-season man. best mother ****ing GM in football and he's ours.

Sassy Squatch 03-05-2025 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17988489)
Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Who cares? They're always ****ing hurt, so there's no point in factoring that into the equation here.

DJ's left nut 03-05-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17988387)
You think Robinson is a lot worse than he is man.

I get he isn't Trent Williams of 2021, but he's a lot better than what we fielded last year at LT and will be better than Donovan Smith was too.

He's firmly in Orlando Brown territory, a superior pass blocker than him and a step back as a run blocker.

Yeah - there's a group of people that seem to believe he's not even a starter. I don't get that at all.

He's an above average pass blocking LT who's going to get paid like an elite one. The contract will suck - the player will not. He'll be fine. An upgrade over anything we've had there since Fisher.

ChiTown 03-05-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17988486)
I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.

Ready to step in when?

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17988464)
Also is this a move so they can pay Bolton?

Another reason why I don't think they'll go after the 1st Tier LT's.

The more I look around I think DJ is coming back on the cheap - Spotrac had his market value at like $2M - and he's self-repped, or way off the grid with a signing or trade we're not expecting.

Hoover 03-05-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17988489)
Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

But he's not going to be paid like a stop gap which is the problem with Robinson. That dude is going to get 20M a year, which causes our line to be expensive as hell and we have to find a RT in 2026, and lets be honest we will want to be looking for an upgrade at LT. So spending the money on Cam Robinson just doesn't change your situation enough IMO.

dirk digler 03-05-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearmontChief (Post 17988457)
Good point except for the comp pick comment. There is no comp picks awarded for trades. That’s a free agent losses vs gains calculation. But, a 4th round pick for a 33 yr old expensive guard is pretty decent return.

Correct. I was just asking if they didn't trade and let him walk next year we would be in line for a 3rd round comp pick. That assumes the items Staylor listed don't happen or if he doesn't retire etc.

It is all mute anyway..

SAGA45 03-05-2025 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17988506)
Ready to step in when?

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17988438)
Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.


Mecca 03-05-2025 11:52 AM

Boltons 24 years old it's hard for me to think they don't want a second contract there.

ChiefsCountry 03-05-2025 11:53 AM

Tyler Booker and Gary Zabel are late first round guards who could come in a be day one starters if they decide to go that route


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