Heh, didn't see this before I posted... Russia is stacked. They were in the toughest group and still got 7 points out of it.

Bingo. I thought most of the Canadians gave their full effort...they just ran into the best goalie in the world.

What?

Who the **** said that?

The only bad call in the game was the call on Erik Johnson that got Canada back in it.

It's a blow to the moosers, to be certain. They have to win four in a row to get the gold, now. That's not going to be easy. Of course, we have to win three. Should be interesting.

FAX

Nope, look at them...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/hockey/te...m=5/index.html

That was an excellent game.

When (or if???) Canada beats Germany, it looks like they'll be facing Russia in the QF. One of them isn't going home with a medal.

Agree to disagree.

(not saying Russia is some pushover, but IMO, Canada has more talent top to bottom)

Sundin's gone from 2006...that will hurt them a lot.

It's tough to get into, I know, but I'll take playoff hockey over playoff football any day.

Who said that?

Some Canucks on another board. They're assholes when it comes to hockey.

Oh, I thought you meant one of the players.

Ovechkin makes his presence known in one way or another every game. He has such a multi-faceted game, and opposing teams have to focus on him whenever he steps on the ice. Crosby isn't anywhere near as good as that, and anyone who watched both games today would have seen that.

Those Canucks are ****ing wasted bad.

On MSNC right now: Canadians on the street dont seem too upset about it. Looks like they all just want to get drunk.

I was hoping that would be the final, assuming Team USA wasn't ready (but with Miller, who knows).... that would be a helluva QF.

Those bitches got NAFTA'D (hockey got sent south).

I'm not too upset. It was always going to come down to winning 3-4 straight elimination games for Canada, which will obviously be tough to do. These international hockey tournaments are just as crazy as March Madness.

I'm canadian and I'm livid with the performance of our entire team. With a FEW exceptions this team has collectively choked. From alpine skiing to both skating disciplines to the sliding sports its been an embarrassment! If losers with Canada clothing on want to go downtown and get drunk and stagger around singing our anthem good for them but this teams medal count will be WAY under expectations.We are a DNF joke and I'm pissed. Congrats to the USA for a tremendous effort-you should be proud. Me? I'm ashamed and its probably gonna get worse.

OK, so if I'm reading all the tiebreaker stuff right, a 60-minute win by Finland tonight puts them in the 1st seed position. Anything else (overtime win or Sweden win) puts the U.S. in First.

So GO FOPPA (and the rest of the Swedes) tonight.

Why do you care so much about the medal count of athletes that you will stop giving a shit about in 2 weeks?

I've never understood why people care. It's not you that's done the work to get there.

Here's the full standings if anyone cares.

Canada 1st in ice dancing...you've got to love it.

I care because all these athletes went to our federal gov't and asked for outrageous sums of $ and justified it by saying the games are in our backyard and we need extra funding so we can "Own The Podium". They got the extra funding and its been a complete and utter disaster. What a waste of money. That's why I care.

I officially deem ice dancing the most useless of all Olympic sports. And I'm including summer and winter in that statement.

There's nothing else on for the next 1:15 or so, and I am considering turning this shit off.

(And I'm delayed on NBC compared to the rest of you if that clarifies anything.)

What game were some of you watching? Lack of effort from Canada? Canada lost because of Miller and a couple of serious bone-head plays in their own end from Niedermayer and Brodeur that resulted in goals for Rafalski and Drury. Almost another due to Pronger's stupidity.
The puck was in the U.S' end all game. Yes, there were some players who were invisible out there (Iginla, I'm looking your way) but tonight's loss wasn't the result of a lack of effort. It was stupid plays and a hot goalie. Brodeur was hardly tested tonight. Any other night while with Jersey, Brodeur doesn't let in more than one of those shots.
Don't be surprised to see Luongo next.
I'm not too concerned at this point, maybe a little but back 8 years ago when Canada won the the Gold they did loose early to Sweden then took it the rest of the way.
The U.S. won fair and square and I do wish them lot's of luck the rest of the way. If Canada can't do it then I'm definitely rooting Red, White and Blue. We both play the same style and they're a lot of American players I highly respect, except Kesler, I want to give that whiney bitch a two hander.

Go Red Wings East!

The athletes didn't ask for that money, the federal government gave it to them willingly after winning the bid in Vancouver. And if you are so worried about medals, you'd know that Canada will get a ton of them in the final week here. Do some ****ing research.

I'll never understand why people whine so damn much about people that they've never followed or never will follow ever again.

I tend to agree. Miller stood on his head tonight. Otherwise, it was a pretty even game all around. Canada ruled on shots, but they were just throwing most of them at the net. USA was picking and choosing more and, therefore, got more quality shots off.

Eh, I love both. NHL playoffs are full of win.

Do some research? Ok ass-clown if you're so smart tell me what events Canada is gonna clean up in? I didn't realize I was conversing with an expert. Whine back in reply plz.

Brian Burke has built a good team. It's about time that he did the same with the Leafs.

Petegz is Canadian?

Oh you are a LEAFS fan- that would explain it. Enjoy the golf course- it's just around the corner.

I am Canadian, you stupid Vancouver ****face.

They'll win numerous medals in hockey, curling, speed skating, short track, and apparently these ice dancers have all but locked up a medal.

http://wintergames.ap.org/story.aspx...22b487ccb2537d

Because the Canucks are a powerhouse, right?

Not a canucks fan, I'm a chiefs fan. You don't have to live in Canada and have to love your local team. Don't care about the canucks one bit. I play the game , I don't watch it. And I'm born and raised here. Now if your vocabulary is so limited that you have to constantly use ******* in all your posts maybe you should quit spending so much time on this site and go back and get your G. E. D. Just a thought.

Now who's getting all worked up? Enjoy the -C Temps. Be sure to plug your block heater in on your Ford Fiesta. Have a great night!

I was bitching about Chris Drury being on the roster instead of TJ Oshie...but I'll admit I was wrong. Drury was a rock on the penalty kill and played his ass off during Canada's late game barrage.

Calm down, you crazy Canadians. You guys are supposed to be the friendly ones.

I just get frustrated with idiocy easily. It's my fault.

Which NHL team do you follow, if not the Canucks?

Perhaps you are correct sir but all this guy does is come on here and rip everything that people say, nothing positive, everyone's an idiot and they don't know anything. It's TIRED and played out. Go away already.

Most other Canadians have a bit of an inferiority complex about people from Toronto. So it's understandable.

And I thought we were all pot smokers.

I rip everything people say? Nothing positive? WTF are you talking about? LMAO.

I don't see why the Canadiens are getting all worked up. They still have curling.

:drool:Be nice or else Qubec will seperate from Canada.

lol. They've been threatening that for years. I wouldn't be too upset if it happened, but it's never going to.

I do not have a NHL team that I follow sir. I am a diehard KC chiefs fan going back to the Bill Kenney Joe Delaney era. I get the sunday ticket every year and don't miss a game. When Seattle was in the afc west I went down every year and have been to arrowhead 3 times. This is my team and as you can attest it's been several tough seasons of late. I'm not a band-wagoner or a frontrunner; in fact I love the chiefs more than ever. If you are ever in Vancouver and you need a place to watch the game I'd be happy to have you over-I like bud cans. Other than watching Don Cherry I watch very little HNIC because its so swayed towards your leafs. Let me know when your cominG out for a visit and please, wear RED! Is that more canadian?!

Qubecious are assholes.

Yes, yes, we're all Chiefs fans. And yes, these are troubled times for this franchise.

I'm just surprised you don't watch a professional hockey team.

I've been to Quebec City once...that was enough.

As KC connection said if frenchy wants to go then GO. No one in Canada wants them; they are a bunch of brooding malcontents who are never happy. I'd love to see their economy after a few years. their own currency, their own health care, good luck!

Just make sure they leave their women behind. I always look forward to when someone's stag is coming up - weekend in Montreal!!!

I play the game and crank out about 70-80 games a year. So to be honest I get sick of it. I play goal. I'm not big on Luongo(overrated). I like Pekka Rinne and Bryzgalov and was a huge Pelle Lindbergh fan back in the day. (His porsche is my avatar). The best part is this town is canuck-crazy but what they don't realize is the canucks will NEVER EVER win a cup. I'm convinced of it. Yeah they came close in '94 but there is such a culture of losing, choking, and apathy in the organization I can't see it happening. You should see it out here: all these losers who bust out their car flags for the playoffs and when the canucks bow oiut the flags are GONE. My Chiefs decal on my truck and mini helmet on my dash are there 365.

I stopped playing hockey a few years ago precisely for that reason. I got sick of it. Too bad, I suppose, it was probably my best sport.

I've watched him a lot over the years, so I was a surprised at how so many people were angry over the decision, even though I haven't watched him much in the past year or two. When USA beat Russia a couple of Olympics ago, it was Chris Drury who was killing time by fighting off two Russians in the Russian zone, and stuff like that will never make the headlines.... the effort he puts into each game is simply amazing. He's won at every level... he's a walking cliche.

Uh, what? :spock:

The guy has almost a 92% career save percentage, and a lot of that was with the Florida Panthers... if anything, he's one of the most underrated goalies of all time.

Sweden starts the game by taking a penalty. Bastards.

52 second 5 on 3 coming up.

GOAL SWEDEN!!!

Sweden made them pay quickly....

Save percentage is the most ridiculous stat. its meaningless. say a guy comes down the wing on a 2 on 1 and the goalie comes out and takes the angle away. the guy shoots and missis the net because he had no net to shoot at. does the goalie get credit for a save? No.

The fact is Luongo has limited playoff experience, he's overworked and is prone to injury and fatigue because he insists on playing all the games. he's also inconsistent, has been chased from several starts in the last month and a 12 year old could handle the puck better than him. so yeah he'll play vs germany and have a 16 shot shutout and then everyone will say he should start against russia. Id go back to brodeur, experienced and a better goalie.

With the talent Sweden has at forward, I'd almost be more surprised if they DIDN'T convert a 5 on 3.

Did you see Peter Forsberg on that play? Simply amazing.





Okay, he wasn't on the ice, but if he had been....

Seems like you guys are ****ed no matter what you do. Brodeur has been flat-out awful.

haha, what's up with you and Peter Forsberg?

Well, his save percentage would be better in your scenario, so I don't see how that proves your point. I know you can cherry-pick stats to make people look good, but stopping the puck is a pretty important one. GAA can be deceiving based on who's in front of you, but the guy stood on his head for the Panthers, taking a ton of shots and stopping 91%+. Then again, you're Canadian and a goalie, so what do I know, eh?

And yeah, Brodeur isn't swiss cheese... I'd take him, too.

He's the kind of guy you want on your team, especially on an Olympic team. I watched him a lot over his career, especially when he played for Buffalo. I understood why the Sabres didn't resign him because, as much as I liked it when he played there, he's not a guy you necessarily want to give a big contract to. But he's such a heady guy and the puck seems to find him in those big moments. If I was on the other team I wouldn't like to see him near the net with the puck in a big moment.

It's crazy to see how much slower this game is than the last one. Still fast-paced compared to a normal NHL game, but the USA-Canada game was just intense for the full 60 minutes.

Uh, yeah, mancrush...... I watched him a lot when he was on the Avalanche, and when he was healthy, he was the best player on the ice. He slows the game down and has insanely good vision.

Damn ankles...

Oh, and he's on a stamp... how many people do you know that are on a stamp?

http://www.ansports.com/cool/Forsberg.jpg

He almost got a sweet shot off just there. He's a lot slower than he used to be, but his stick handling is still unreal.

The US team is really fast on their skates. Really fast. Going forward, I hope they continue to stay aggressive on offense. If they can keep up that kind of speed and intensity (and if they don't run into some goalie whose stars have aligned just right), they'll be damn difficult to beat.

FAX

Elvis had a stamp. And Porky Pig had a stamp. So did the Three Stooges. Hell, nowadays, you can put yourself on a stamp. Or, if you wish, you can take a digital photo of a hobo down by the tracks as he's cooking up some worms and beans and put his ass on a stamp. Or, if a Raider fan wanted to, he could steal a camera and take a picture of his pet skunk and make a stamp out of that. Except for the fact that, as soon as he showed his face at the Post Office, somebody would recognize him from the wanted poster on the wall and he'd be arrested after the wild cross-town chase when he rammed his '87 Camry into an overpass abutment at a top speed of 35 miles an hour. He could still use the stamp to correspond with his ex-wife in an effort to convince her to smuggle some weed into the joint, though. Except that he can't write, of course. So, he'd have to get a cell-mate to do that part. Except that the cell-mate would probably get paroled sooner and look up the ex-wife on his own and they would conspire to kill the guy for the $200 in life insurance. But, he could is all I'm saying.

FAX

Shut up, FAX.

Germany made up some ground today on the over all medal count... We were up by a sizeable amount yesterday, now only up 6...

Not nice....

Santa Claus had a stamp. And so did that guy who took the first steps on the moon ... if we really did go to the moon, that is. If we didn't and it was just a big fake deal pulled off by NASA it order to fool everybody and convince the world that we really had a handle on the science even though the computer necessary to run the spaceship would have weighed about 2 tons back in those days and wouldn't have fit in the command module anyhow and the television pictures they showed of him climbing down the ladder and taking the first moon steps were actually shot on a sound stage somewhere in California, the guy who pretended he took the first steps on the moon had a stamp. And so did Roy Rogers. He had a stamp. Trigger was on it, too.

FAX

Swedes score again. 2-0!

Looking like the U.S. has a damn good chance at that #1 seed. :)