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fairladyZ 01-30-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9366114)
Well, obviously his shoulder isn't ok.

I think it's ok finally. He's at IMG now throwing and posted on twitter he feels great and working harder than ever. I know somebody posted saying usc is pushing their proday back cause his shoulder but i think that may have already been set, and maybe precautionary.

htismaqe 01-30-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9366132)
I think it's ok finally. He's at IMG now throwing and posted on twitter he feels great and working harder than ever. I know somebody posted saying usc is pushing their proday back cause his shoulder but i think that may have already been set, and maybe precautionary.

If they're "pushing it back" that means they're rescheduling it.

Kind of hard to spin "Am told USC pushing their pro-day back 2+ weeks to give Matt Barkley more time to recuperate..."

fairladyZ 01-30-2013 08:45 PM

maybe it's cause he got a late start to get to IMG? maybe they're giving him more time to work on everything before he does his proday.

Who really knows i just hope he throws at the combine. I hope they all throw at the combine.

htismaqe 01-30-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9366152)
maybe it's cause he got a late start to get to IMG? maybe they're giving him more time to work on everything before he does his proday.

Well, the word "recuperate" is fairly specific but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9366152)
Who really knows i just hope he throws at the combine. I hope they all throw at the combine.

Not gonna happen. I'd like for them to all throw too but they won't.

RunKC 01-30-2013 09:27 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Barkley has cankels? Sure looks like it in the IGM pic.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-30-2013 09:39 PM

With....all the big drama at the ol CP
its kinda hard being big Sweet Dick Willie...
WEEEE-OOH-WEEE-WEEEOWWW....
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HolyHat 01-31-2013 12:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23USC">#USC</a> plans on pushing their pro day back two or more weeks to give QB Matt Barkley more time to heal, according... <a href="http://t.co/1s2UVydC" title="http://fb.me/29t3HFd9j">fb.me/29t3HFd9j</a></p>&mdash; Oren Shiri (@NFLorentime) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLorentime/status/297054352806379520">January 31, 2013</a></blockquote>
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htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9367711)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23USC">#USC</a> plans on pushing their pro day back two or more weeks to give QB Matt Barkley more time to heal, according... <a href="http://t.co/1s2UVydC" title="http://fb.me/29t3HFd9j">fb.me/29t3HFd9j</a></p>&mdash; Oren Shiri (@NFLorentime) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLorentime/status/297054352806379520">January 31, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not good.

HolyHat 01-31-2013 01:04 PM

He's in Florida now at the IMG camp...

htismaqe 01-31-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9367743)
He's in Florida now at the IMG camp...

And?

That doesn't mean he's not still hurt.

He could be at IMG working on footwork, still unable to throw at full strength.

Does that mean he's going to suck? No.

But it absolutely WILL affect the evaluation process. He's going to drop on a lot of teams' boards if he can't throw until right before the draft.

HolyHat 01-31-2013 01:19 PM

This kid will never be healthy enough to make it in the NFL in my opinion. He seems very soft. Maybe I'm wrong, but this isn't looking good for Barkley.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9367782)
This kid will never be healthy enough to make it in the NFL in my opinion. He seems very soft. Maybe I'm wrong, but this isn't looking good for Barkley.

I'm not high on Barkley myself but I feel bad for him.

He could have been a top 5 pick last year...

HolyHat 01-31-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367791)
I'm not high on Barkley myself but I feel bad for him.

He could have been a top 5 pick last year...

He would have ruptured his vagina by now in the league

ChiefsCountry 01-31-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9367803)
He would have ruptured his vagina by now in the league

Your an idiot.
Posted via Mobile Device

HolyHat 01-31-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9367817)
Your an idiot.
Posted via Mobile Device

You're*

htismaqe 01-31-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9367818)
You're*

:facepalm:

Canofbier 01-31-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9367817)
Your an idiot.
Posted via Mobile Device

and*

Sorter 01-31-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9367817)
Your an idiot.
Posted via Mobile Device

and*

Sorter 01-31-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9367869)
and*

god ****ing damnit

HolyHat 01-31-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9367817)
Your an idiot.
Posted via Mobile Device

Urine*

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 02:31 PM

Let's talk About the potential QB draft

By jacobjosey0 on Jan 30, 2:47p 13

Let's start off with there is obviously a number 1 QB out there. For those who don't agree let me put it this way the number 1 QB out there is the one who will mesh with our team better, and who can win more games and be the better leader to help this team. The question is of course who is worth it and who will fit with our team better.

#1. Matt Barkley, USC

barkley_web.jpg

Reason being is you don't throw 100 TD's in college for no reason. He is no fluke. Matt Barkley is the real deal. His career stats are 1001 completions for 1562 pass attempts. That is a 64% completion percentage. He had a 147 QBR. He threw for 116 TD's and 12327 passing yards. He threw 48 Interceptions. He is the first true freshmen to ever start at USC. We're talking about a guy in his senior year who played with a crappy line. Who is mobile enough can get out of pressure. I'm not saying he is the best ever. What I am saying is that he is the best in the draft. His deep ball and his sideline throws are the most accurate in the draft. This I think is the most important because of Andy Reid. He has the smoothest throwing motion and mechanics. He is also more likely to check down then force a ball in there. He is no Andrew Luck and he is no RG3. He I personally think has the most potential in the draft. With Andy Reid and 2 other former QB's they could easily give him the tools he needs to be one of the greatest with his natural feeling for the pocket collapsing. Even if they make him nothing more then a game manager. He is able to call proper audibles and change plays at the line. The things he needs to work on is his middle of the field throws intermediate level. He is also confident.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...s-in-the-draft

O.city 02-01-2013 03:02 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Per @USC_Athletics, QB Matt Barkley will not throw at the NFL Scouting Combine.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370772)
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Per @USC_Athletics, QB Matt Barkley will not throw at the NFL Scouting Combine.

And they're moving back his pro-day to allow him more time to "recuperate".

That's gonna hurt.

Imon Yourside 02-01-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367823)
:facepalm:

LMAO

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:20 PM

son ofa bitch!

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370836)
son ofa bitch!

Yep.

It would be one thing if Barkley just didn't want to throw.

But if there's question marks about his shoulder, not throwing is going to make those questions just that much bigger.

I just wish they'd all throw and be done with it.

But they won't.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:27 PM

ya if there is ANY doubt about his shoulder it's better to not rush it for sure.
I would just like to see them all side by side and throwing to the same receivers all next to each other..

Oh well what do you do

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370865)
ya if there is ANY doubt about his shoulder it's better to not rush it for sure.
I would just like to see them all side by side and throwing to the same receivers all next to each other..

Oh well what do you do

It's better not to rush it for sure.

But if he's not healthy after all this time, that's a knock too.

He's really in a no-win situation.

Titty Meat 02-01-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370885)
It's better not to rush it for sure.

But if he's not healthy after all this time, that's a knock too.

He's really in a no-win situation.

Its a knock that a broken bone takes 12 weeks to heal?

Come on man.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370888)
Its a knock that a broken bone takes 12 weeks to heal?

Come on man.

Didn't know he broke a bone. Thought it was a shoulder problem?

Chiefnj2 02-01-2013 03:42 PM

The team reported it as an AC sprain when he couldn't play in the bowl game.

-King- 02-01-2013 03:43 PM

Lesson for all college players:

If you're projected to be a top 10 or even top 15 pick.... GO! There's no need to go back to school for your senior year.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9370902)
Lesson for all college players:

If you're projected to be a top 10 or even top 15 pick.... GO! There's no need to go back to school for your senior year.

This.


Even more, if you are told you are a sure fire first rounder, go.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:45 PM

yes AC Sprain, no broken bones, no surgery. Which is surprising it's taking this long to heal.

I'm leaning towards its more precautionary to make sure he's at his absolute best since he had such a long time before he was able to start throwing again. Working at IMG he probably wants to get as much work done as possible before he goes out there and displays it infront of people deciding his future.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370888)
Its a knock that a broken bone takes 12 weeks to heal?

Come on man.

It was a sprain of the AC joint. It shouldn't take 12 weeks to heal.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370904)
yes AC Sprain, no broken bones, no surgery. Which is surprising it's taking this long to heal.

I'm leaning towards its more precautionary to make sure he's at his absolute best since he had such a long time before he was able to start throwing again. Working at IMG he probably wants to get as much work done as possible before he goes out there and displays it infront of people deciding his future.

That could very well be.

I'm hoping that the use of words like "recuperate" and "heal" in those Tweets were just poor choices of words.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9370902)
Lesson for all college players:

If you're projected to be a top 10 or even top 15 pick.... GO! There's no need to go back to school for your senior year.

Yep.

He would have been taken no later than where Tannehill went, I have to think.

I feel bad for him.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:47 PM

With lingering questions about arm strength, a lingering shoulder injury aren't going to do him any favors.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:47 PM

i hope so to. only time will tell now though. And i'd honestly rather have him throwing at 100% rather than rushing it.

Titty Meat 02-01-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370911)
Yep.

He would have been taken no later than where Tannehill went, I have to think.

I feel bad for him.

I dont. His money will be made with the 2nd contract regardless.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370918)
I dont. His money will be made with the 2nd contract regardless.

He might never get a 2nd contract. You can't bank on stuff like that.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370907)
It was a sprain of the AC joint. It shouldn't take 12 weeks to heal.

If it's a grade 2 8-12 weeks to heal.

Chiefnj2 02-01-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9370902)
Lesson for all college players:

If you're projected to be a top 10 or even top 15 pick.... GO! There's no need to go back to school for your senior year.

Just because Walter Football, or some 21 year old kid in his mom's basement says you are a top 10 pick doesn't mean you really are. NFL teams will find the flaws.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9370930)
If it's a grade 2 8-12 weeks to heal.

Holy cow. Thanks for the info.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9370931)
Just because Walter Football, or some 21 year old kid in his mom's basement says you are a top 10 pick doesn't mean you really are. NFL teams will find the flaws.

He filed paperwork with the NFL last year. He was going to be a 1st round pick.

ChiefsCountry 02-01-2013 03:55 PM

I tore my labrum and its at minium a 2 month injury. I was just a dumb high school kid and took pain killers and let it heal half assed bc I didnt want to miss anytime. Paid for it a year later though.

ChiefsCountry 02-01-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370937)
He filed paperwork with the NFL last year. He was going to be a 1st round pick.

He was rated higher than Griffin and not much off of Luck.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9370939)
I tore my labrum and its at minium a 2 month injury. I was just a dumb high school kid and took pain killers and let it heal half assed bc I didnt want to miss anytime. Paid for it a year later though.

So what happens if his pro-day has to wait until mid April?

Chiefnj2 02-01-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9370930)
If it's a grade 2 8-12 weeks to heal.

Barkley said it was a grade 1 in his interview with Dan Patrick.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9370944)
Barkley said it was a grade 1 in his interview with Dan Patrick.

So how long does that take to heal? 4 weeks?

ChiefsCountry 02-01-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370943)
So what happens if his pro-day has to wait until mid April?

Well Barkley has a shit ton of game tape. He is going to kill at the combine with his personality and smarts. He is at IMG now. That late buzz might not be the worst thing for him.

Chiefnj2 02-01-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370958)
So how long does that take to heal? 4 weeks?

I have no idea. He looked physically uncomfortable in the interview. He was clearly favoring one shoulder even as he sat. He also has some issue with his mouth and some type of lisp thing going on.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370958)
So how long does that take to heal? 4 weeks?

4-6 Barkley made the right call not to throw. Wait for his pro day when he has his WR.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 04:04 PM

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/atK5te-BwNQ?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Show was on 12-3 He looks in pain.

B14ckmon 02-01-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9370977)
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/atK5te-BwNQ?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Show was on 12-3 He looks in pain.

Looks like a guy who just flew from LA to NY and did the Dan Patrick show an hour later.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 04:26 PM

i have a tear in my rotator cuff now and it sucks.. I've lost so much strength in not only day to day stuff but throwing anything with velocity. I'm doing physical therapy to strengthen it back up to hopefully be back to where i was before the tear. Hopefully i can get my arm back and throw a football like i used too here soon!

So i know what shoulder pain is like and it does suck. I can just now finally sit on the couch and not be in pain from just having my arm rest on the armrest. Definitely sucks

htismaqe 02-01-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9370972)
4-6 Barkley made the right call not to throw. Wait for his pro day when he has his WR.

I would tend to agree with him not throwing if he were completely healthy.

I really don't know though. I would think it would concern some teams.

ChiefsCountry 02-01-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9371025)
i have a tear in my rotator cuff now and it sucks.. I've lost so much strength in not only day to day stuff but throwing anything with velocity. I'm doing physical therapy to strengthen it back up to hopefully be back to where i was before the tear. Hopefully i can get my arm back and throw a football like i used too here soon!

So i know what shoulder pain is like and it does suck. I can just now finally sit on the couch and not be in pain from just having my arm rest on the armrest. Definitely sucks

Wait till its some normal activity that will rock your world. Mine was reaching for the remote on the coffee table.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 04:29 PM

oh there has been plenty, sitting at desks, the couch, trying to scratch my back, reaching out to grab anything. Thankfully my labrum wasn't torn, I have inpingment going on aswell that caused the tear, i got into the muscle but didn't tear the tendon yet so i caught it early. No fun whatsoever!

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 04:56 PM

Matthew Barkley ‏@MattBarkley

Who ever said that? I didn’t… “@USC_Athletics: QB @MattBarkley will not throw at the NFL Combine.”



BOOM

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 05:03 PM

NOICE!!!!

so we very well may be seeing barkley, wilson, and smith all 3 throwing at the combine!

B14ckmon 02-01-2013 05:03 PM

I hope Matty has a great career. The USC stigma needs to die.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 05:10 PM

Rich Hammond ‏@RegisterUSC

To be accurate, @MattBarkley said it would be a "game-time decision" as to whether he would throw at the combine. Didn't seem likely though.
Retweeted by Matthew Barkley

htismaqe 02-01-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9371127)
Matthew Barkley ‏@MattBarkley

Who ever said that? I didn’t… “@USC_Athletics: QB @MattBarkley will not throw at the NFL Combine.”



BOOM

Is that REALLY Matt Barkley?

Sorry, I just had to. :D

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-01-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9371179)
Is that REALLY Matt Barkley?

Sorry, I just had to. :D

Well Played

Sorter 02-01-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9371160)
Rich Hammond ‏@RegisterUSC

To be accurate, @MattBarkley said it would be a "game-time decision" as to whether he would throw at the combine. Didn't seem likely though.
Retweeted by Matthew Barkley

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rd_Hammond.jpg

Didn't know the Brits cared about Barkley this much.

B14ckmon 02-01-2013 11:32 PM

Barkley is definitely the most seasoned of the group.

AussieChiefsFan 02-02-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9366119)
Him nor Geno will throw at the combine.

Geno has said he's throwing at the combine.

Messier 02-02-2013 07:40 AM

These QBs need to be seen more, not less. If Barkley can't throw, that's one thing, but I think teams have questions about all the QBs.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-02-2013 11:02 AM

2) USC QB Matt Barkley is right around 6-foot-2 and has a very thick build. I've seen Barkley play live several times during his college career and I noticed one big difference last week: His arm has gotten much stronger. He was able to drive the ball with more authority than he has in the past three years. He has always had great footwork and touch as a passer, but there were concerns about his ability to squeeze the ball into tight windows down the field. I was pleasantly surprised to watch him crank up the velocity on the deep comebacks during the workout on Saturday.

By Daniel Jeremiah July 12

HolyHat 02-02-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9371146)
I hope Matty has a great career. The USC stigma needs to die.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other. Tell me which one fills up faster

fairladyZ 02-07-2013 12:37 AM

Bumping this back up...

matt did an interview down in NO during the super bowl week. some pretty intresting things taken away.

Said it was a degree 3 AC sprain and he went and saw Dr. Andrews and there won't be any negatives in the future from it.

Said he's very comfortable in a hybrid WCO

Said he wants to go #1.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap20...ure-in-the-NFL

Sorter 02-07-2013 12:45 AM

He really couldn't even mention the Chiefs by name? Just referred to us as the #1 pick?

****, even Manuel was able to do that.

LMAO

fairladyZ 02-07-2013 12:48 AM

i was kinda hoping he would come out and say "andy reid's WCO in KC"

but alas life spits on me again

RunKC 02-07-2013 12:49 AM

Well Matt's best chance to move ahead will be at the combine. He is a smart kid and that's his best asset IMO.

silver5liter 02-07-2013 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9384176)
Well Matt's best chance to move ahead will be at the combine. He is a smart kid and that's his best asset IMO.

His only problem is that so are Wilson and Smith.

fairladyZ 02-07-2013 12:50 AM

reposted geno's in his thread so i might aswell repost barkley's in this one incase anyone missed it or didn't click the names like i ddin't the first time.

good analysis of barkley

http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...outing-report/

RunKC 02-07-2013 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9384178)
His only problem is that so are Wilson and Smith.

He has an upper hand on those guys. We're running the WCO. Barkley has played in that offense for 4 years. He should know every little detail about the offense.

Sorter 02-07-2013 12:56 AM

I just rewatched his film from Stanford last year. Looks much more composed and better moving/readjusting within the pocket. Made some really solid throws FWIW.

silver5liter 02-07-2013 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9384184)
He has an upper hand on those guys. We're running the WCO. Barkley has played in that offense for 4 years. He should know every little detail about the offense.

But he wasnt that great in it. His short - medium accuracy is an issue according to those stats just posted.


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