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aturnis 01-31-2013 12:23 PM

Haha.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 12:24 PM

**** that unibrow sporting SOB.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9366848)
I said in one of the other threads that you people need to stop taking these mocks so seriously. And then I got whined at by some dumb guy on here.

Zip it bitch

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9367640)
Zip it bitch

In case anyone was wondering. This is the dumb guy I was referring to.

He probably carves all of the mock drafts into his arms with butter knives.

RealSNR 01-31-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9367641)
In case anyone was wondering. This is the dumb guy I was referring to.

He probably carves all of the mock drafts into his arms with butter knives.

Nah. PGM's a cool guy. When the midget apocalypse comes around, you'll want to be friends with him.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:33 PM

What's funny is that if you go out to some of the draft-related, non-team-affiliated forums (ie. NFLDC) and read what they're saying on the QB subject, you'll find the SAME DISCUSSION as here, even though 90% of those guys aren't Chiefs fans.

It's pretty interesting to read.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 12:34 PM

Don't smoke corn cobs kids.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9367658)
Nah. PGM's a cool guy. When the midget apocalypse comes around, you'll want to be friends with him.

I'll kick his shins

RealSNR 01-31-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9367664)
I'll kick his shins

Oof. That ain't good. That's how the midgets attack you- when you get on the ground. They're like miniature velociraptors.

Rausch 01-31-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9367667)
That's how the midgets attack you- when you get on the ground. They're like miniature velociraptors.

They coordinate their attacks in groups?...

htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:41 PM

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NFL.com player rankings updated. If anybody still thinks Geno is out of the question at #1 overall, they're kidding themselves.

Dave Lane 01-31-2013 12:42 PM

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“Geno Smith is the most overrated quarterback I’ve seen in a long time. He’s not that good. If he didn’t throw for 600 and some yards and eight touchdowns against Baylor toward the beginning of the season, he wouldn’t have the hype he’s got right now. He’s talented but I went to watch him work out a couple of weeks ago down in Florida and he was airmailing the ball over a wide receiver who was just standing there. He wasn’t even running a route.
Wow strong words. But even then if you don't put Geno in the top ten, even if not to KC then you are an idiot of Mel Kiper proportions.

BossChief 01-31-2013 12:43 PM

I wonder what made them drop Geno from a 93 to a 91...?

Dayze 01-31-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9367660)
Don't smoke corn cobs kids.

LMAO
Or banana peels.


on a side note;; when I was probably 12, my brother told me if I smoked granulated tea, or coffee, I'd get high (he was kidding of course).

about three weeks later, I remember this while at a friends house. so we decided to try it.

didn't have rolling papers, so we used notebook paper.
LMAO
good god.

BossChief 01-31-2013 12:45 PM

ROFL

mdchiefsfan 01-31-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9367681)
I wonder what made them drop Geno from a 93 to a 91...?

I think the 93 grade was given before this season. In the review of their grade it said something about him having to prove something in 2012

htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9367681)
I wonder what made them drop Geno from a 93 to a 91...?

Their previous rankings were pre-season.

These are their pre-combine rankings.

The closer we get to the draft, the closer we get to Geno going #1 overall.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:51 PM

For comparison's sake:

Ryan Tannehill was an 87 in a class with Luck (97) and RG3 (95). He went 8th.

Sam Bradford was also an 87 and he went #1 overall.

Cam Newton was an EIGHTY ONE.

O.city 01-31-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9367680)
Wow strong words. But even then if you don't put Geno in the top ten, even if not to KC then you are an idiot of Mel Kiper proportions.

Who said this?

BossChief 01-31-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367700)
For comparison's sake:

Ryan Tannehill was an 87 in a class with Luck (97) and RG3 (95). He went 8th.

Sam Bradford was also an 87 and he went #1 overall.

Cam Newton was an EIGHTY ONE.

Too risky.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9367704)
Who said this?

Shawn Zobel, NFL child prodigy.

ForeverChiefs58 01-31-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9367704)
Who said this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9366609)

Not that he matters

O.city 01-31-2013 01:02 PM

So this is after he went to Florida an got called out on twitter by geno? After he went to Florida I thought e changed his tune on geno?

ForeverChiefs58 01-31-2013 01:03 PM

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Geno Smith is the most overrated quarterback I’ve seen in a long time. He’s not that good. If he didn’t throw for 600 and some yards and eight touchdowns against Baylor toward the beginning of the season, he wouldn’t have the hype he’s got right now.

He’s talented but I went to watch him work out a couple of weeks ago down in Florida and he was airmailing the ball over a wide receiver who was just standing there. He wasn’t even running a route.


Gee, maybe the WR was supposed to be running a #@^$* route?

Not a good workout if the WR just stands there. He wouldn't even need a WR for that, just another guy playing catch lol

htismaqe 01-31-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9367736)
So this is after he went to Florida an got called out on twitter by geno? After he went to Florida I thought e changed his tune on geno?

He made some comments recently about the Chiefs taking Tyler Wilson #1 overall and then launched into another diatribe about how overrated Geno is.

It's like the dude ran over his dog or something.

keg in kc 01-31-2013 01:48 PM

Has geno actually gotten any hype anywhere outside of here? How is he overhyped?

the Talking Can 01-31-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367700)
For comparison's sake:

Ryan Tannehill was an 87 in a class with Luck (97) and RG3 (95). He went 8th.

Sam Bradford was also an 87 and he went #1 overall.

Cam Newton was an EIGHTY ONE.

game


set


rape

Sorter 01-31-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9367879)
Has geno actually gotten any hype anywhere outside of here? How is he overhyped?

I believe it was over 80% of reputable mocks have Geno going to us at #1.

Maybe that is overhyping? LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-31-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9367919)
I believe it was over 80% of reputable mocks have Geno going to us at #1.

Maybe that is overhyping? LMAO

gotta love reality...
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HolyHat 01-31-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9367919)
I believe it was over 80% of reputable mocks have Geno going to us at #1.

Maybe that is overhyping? LMAO

seems low. should be higher

keg in kc 01-31-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9367919)
I believe it was over 80% of reputable mocks have Geno going to us at #1.

Maybe that is overhyping? LMAO

And probably 80% of those mocks say "he's not a real #1 pick, but the Chiefs are desperate" or something similar.

Sorter 01-31-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9367948)
And probably 80% of those mocks say "he's not a real #1 pick, but the Chiefs are desperate" or something similar.

I cannot recall but probably. ****ing morons.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-31-2013 02:07 PM

i dont give a **** what they say. And yes we ARE desperate. About thirty years desperate to be exact.
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ToxSocks 01-31-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367678)
NFL.com player rankings updated. If anybody still thinks Geno is out of the question at #1 overall, they're kidding themselves.

Warmack.

Helluva name for a guard. He'd sure look good holding up that #1 overall jersey...

keg in kc 01-31-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9367994)
Warmack.

Helluva name for a guard. He'd sure look good holding up that #1 overall jersey...

Well, this should be entertaining.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-31-2013 02:21 PM

lol trolling troll was a happy troll...yes a happy troll was heeeeee.
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Mr_Tomahawk 01-31-2013 02:52 PM

Eric Branch‏@Eric_Branch

Trent Dilfer on how he knows #Chiefs coach Andy Reid likes his friend, Alex Smith: “There was a courtship last year, to a certain degree.”


--------------------


Been a lot of chatter on Twitter today about the relationship between Alex Smith and the Walrus. More and more people saying that Reid can "fix" Alex Smith.

Getting nervous...we may have Smith as our QB next season, but it won't be Geno.

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 03:01 PM

If Alex Smith and Tyler Wilson split QB duties it would be a guarantee Super Bowl for the Chiefs next year.

HolyHat 01-31-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9368178)
If Alex Smith and Tyler Wilson split QB duties it would be a guarantee Super Bowl for the Chiefs next year.

You're obviously still salty from missing out on the Tebow sweepstakes. Let it go.

They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.

the Talking Can 01-31-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9368153)
Eric Branch‏@Eric_Branch

Trent Dilfer on how he knows #Chiefs coach Andy Reid likes his friend, Alex Smith: “There was a courtship last year, to a certain degree.”


--------------------


Been a lot of chatter on Twitter today about the relationship between Alex Smith and the Walrus. More and more people saying that Reid can "fix" Alex Smith.

Getting nervous...we may have Smith as our QB next season, but it won't be Geno.

wow....


are we really going to do this....again?

Clark?

O.city 01-31-2013 03:13 PM

So going by the logic used here when weinke said good things about geno, of course dilfer is going to say that about his friend. He wants him to be a starter somewhere next year.

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9368189)
You're obviously still salty from missing out on the Tebow sweepstakes. Let it go.

They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.

I'm a Jaguars fan. Jaguar fans never wanted Tebow. You are confusing us with Gator fans who pretend to be Jaguars fans when discussing Tebow.

the Talking Can 01-31-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9368215)
I'm a Jaguars fan. Jaguar fans never wanted Tebow. You are confusing us with Gator fans who pretend to be Jaguars fans when discussing Tebow.

you're confusing us with caring about jags fans, much less distinctions between them...

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9368222)
you're confusing us with caring about jags fans, much less distinctions between them...

Need a hug?

HolyHat 01-31-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9368229)
Need a hug?

Need a team?

Molitoth 01-31-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9368153)
Eric Branch‏@Eric_Branch

Trent Dilfer on how he knows #Chiefs coach Andy Reid likes his friend, Alex Smith: “There was a courtship last year, to a certain degree.”


--------------------


Been a lot of chatter on Twitter today about the relationship between Alex Smith and the Walrus. More and more people saying that Reid can "fix" Alex Smith.

Getting nervous...we may have Smith as our QB next season, but it won't be Geno.

:spock:

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9368232)
Need a team?

Not the one team who did worse with an easier record.

Molitoth 01-31-2013 03:33 PM

Everyone knows the chiefs and jags are both terrible franchises. Quit pretending.

Lets get back to Geno and how he will be the Jags savior because we are too stupid to draft him.

Imon Yourside 01-31-2013 03:33 PM

Can we please get another 49'er reject? they've worked out so well in the past.

HolyHat 01-31-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9368246)
Not the one team who did worse with an easier record.

Where's Dane? I don't feel like being mean this early in the day.

B14ckmon 01-31-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9368251)
Everyone knows the chiefs and jags are both terrible franchises. Quit pretending.

Lets get back to Geno and how he will be the Jags savior because we are too stupid to draft him.


I'd rather get a less risky QB like Tyler Wilson.

Hootie 01-31-2013 04:31 PM

we have Albert and a 3rd round pick invested at LT...

in today's NFL, if you told me we could get 10 years of a PRIME Willie Roaf at LT + Alex Smith OR take the #1 rated QB on the board (Geno Smith) and perhaps have our franchise QB...

I'm taking Geno 10 times out of 10.

Back in the Bradford era when #1 picks got $60M guaranteed....?

Maybe I'd take the Roaf.

Hootie 01-31-2013 04:32 PM

in other words

Albert is FINE, our line is ABOVE AVERAGE (if you ask me)...our defense has 4 or 5 pro bowl caliber players...

DRAFT A ****ING QB YOU ****ING COCKSUCKING FRANCHISE

anyone who thinks we should take anything other than a QB at #1 is a dumbass

RealSNR 01-31-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shart Zobel
Geno Smith is the most overrated quarterback I’ve seen in a long time. He’s not that good. If he didn’t throw for 600 and some yards and eight touchdowns against Baylor toward the beginning of the season, he wouldn’t have the hype he’s got right now.

He’s talented but I went to watch him work out a couple of weeks ago down in Florida and he was airmailing the ball over a wide receiver who was just standing there. He wasn’t even running a route.

This guy wants to write shit on the internet? Holy ****ing comma splice, Batman.

HolyHat 01-31-2013 04:45 PM

Who the balls is Shart Zobel?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9368360)
Who the balls is Shart Zobel?

One of the biggest morons covering football alive....that eats alot of tomatoes apparently.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9368204)
So going by the logic used here when weinke said good things about geno, of course dilfer is going to say that about his friend. He wants him to be a starter somewhere next year.

Yep.

Dilfer is friends with Alex Smith. Everything he says is candy-coated. Therefore, using him as a source it useless.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9367879)
Has geno actually gotten any hype anywhere outside of here? How is he overhyped?

Go over to the NFLDC forums. It's the same shit over there:

"He's awesome."
"He sucks!"
"He's awesome."
"He sucks!"

The thing about it though is that most of them aren't even Chiefs fans, so it's interesting.

Chiefnj2 01-31-2013 05:17 PM

When the NFL season ended I went to a bunch of different forums for teams with top 10 picks and the general fan consensus was that Smith isn't anything special. Nothing like the hype on this board.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 05:20 PM

Good for you Mr. Contrarian

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9368456)
When the NFL season ended I went to a bunch of different forums for teams with top 10 picks and the general fan consensus was that Smith isn't anything special. Nothing like the hype on this board.

Other teams have stupid fans.

Who wooda thunk it?

Hootie 01-31-2013 05:37 PM

you know what bothers me?

This press I'm seeing about Harbaugh claiming a few years back that not only was Kaepernick the #1 QB on his board...but the best player in the draft!!!!!

If he thought this...why did he wait until #34 to draft him? Why not take him where they took Alex Smith?

I hope Dorsey doesn't think he can wait like that for Geno or his #1 QB.

RealSNR 01-31-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9368456)
When the NFL season ended I went to a bunch of different forums for teams with top 10 picks and the general fan consensus was that Smith isn't anything special. Nothing like the hype on this board.

If I were a fan of a team like the Lions with a franchise QB in place and you asked me what I thought of Geno Smith, I'd probably just blindly tell you what I've heard from online draft reports. I would be watching college football looking for players that my team needs and is likely to draft. I might catch one or two West Virginia games all year.

I imagine that's what a bunch of fans do.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2013 05:41 PM

...and many just go durrrrr WVU went 7-5, he sucks ass.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9368501)
This press I'm seeing about Harbaugh claiming a few years back that not only was Kaepernick the #1 QB on his board...but the best player in the draft!!!!!

He's lying. Period.

Hootie 01-31-2013 05:54 PM

well it was his dad who said it and the quote was when he asked them who they were going to take on day 2 and Jim didn't even want to tell his own dad...

I remember REALLY wanting Colin Kaepernick after reading up about him on this board...too bad.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9368536)
well it was his dad who said it and the quote was when he asked them who they were going to take on day 2 and Jim didn't even want to tell his own dad...

I remember REALLY wanting Colin Kaepernick after reading up about him on this board...too bad.

If he was the absolute best player on their board, they wouldn't have waited until all 31 other teams had picked before taking him.

That's just silly.

Hootie 01-31-2013 05:57 PM

I agree. I found it pretty far fetched as well. But hey, he certainly does appear to be the best football player from that class. Remarkable. Cam who?

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9368548)
I agree. I found it pretty far fetched as well. But hey, he certainly does appear to be the best football player from that class. Remarkable. Cam who?

He plays on a much better team than Cam, to be fair.

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:01 PM

I was listening to Colin Cowherd tell a story about Marcellus Wiley on the radio yesterday on my drive to work and he was asking him how he came out of Compton, California and go to an Ivy league school despite all of his "friends" getting caught up in drugs and gang activity etc...and he told Colin it was because he had a strong dad.

RGIII seems like he has a strong father. Colin Kaepernick certainly adores his two parent household.

Kind of wish ol' Geno had one of those. My only concern, really.

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9368551)
He plays on a much better team than Cam, to be fair.

I still think Cam Newton will be a great QB but Colin is just...better. Better head on him, too.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9368558)
I still think Cam Newton will be a great QB but Colin is just...better. Better head on him, too.

Absolutely, he's much better put together between the ears than Cam.

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:04 PM

If we could scrabble up the last 5 drafts and I had to pick a top 5 knowing what I know now...

Damn.

Off the top of my head:

1. Colin Kaepernick
2. Russel Wilson
3. Andrew Luck
4. RGIII
5. Matt Ryan

I know, I know. I honestly would take Kaep and Wilson over Luck. I saw great things out of Luck this year but he wasn't on their level...especially in the postseason. Holy shit. I've never been so impressed with two young QB's in my life.

I honestly have both in my 2013 top 5 and I don't care if anyone wants to laugh at that.

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:05 PM

Ah shit. I'd probably take Ryan over RGIII with this knee injury/health concerns. But that's close.

I think there is a VERY, VERY, VERY large gap between 1-3 and 4.

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:05 PM

It's just amazing that we, THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS, with Matt Cassel at the helm...passed on Kaepernick NEARLY twice and Wilson THREE times...but drafted Ricky Stanzi.

hahaha

Hootie 01-31-2013 06:06 PM

next time I hear a "player X would be a top 5 pick if he was 3" taller" I'm going to blow my brains out. We heard that same shit with Flowers and his 40 time (and even height if I recall)...

RealSNR 01-31-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9368574)
It's just amazing that we, THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS, with Matt Cassel at the helm...passed on Kaepernick NEARLY twice and Wilson THREE times...but drafted Ricky Stanzi.

hahaha

Well, there's your problem, ma'am.

For some reason it took Scott Pioli four seasons to realize Matt Cassel wasn't a legit option for this franchise. I assume it's because Matt was his buddy, and Scott is too much of an insecure dumbass to "trust" his team to just anybody he doesn't know.

Think about this for a second. Scott gave Cassel a freebie year in 2009. Then 2010 happened and Scott assumed that life was great in Chiefs land. Then there are all the reports that none of the coaches thought Matt was any good. He gets rid of them all one way or another and KEEPS Matt. And not only does he keep him around, but he drafts ZERO competition apart from one 5th rounder.

Now, we're to assume that Scott would have drafted at least ONE QB in this draft if he were still GM, but even then we can't guarantee it'd be a very high pick. And most likely we'd be looking at another year of Cassel while that QB sits on the bench.

I'll bet Scott didn't pass on all those QBs because he thought they weren't good enough. I'll bet he passed on them because he genuinely believed that he had his franchise QB, and teams with franchise QBs don't actively pursue good QBs in the draft.

RunKC 01-31-2013 06:34 PM

It's amazing how Scott Pioli talked about how character and pro style experience and leadership were so critical but yet Russell Wilson, the QB who looked great in two pro style offenses, showed excellent leadership and had outstanding interviews at the Senior Bowl was passed up because shithead Pioli had tunnel vision for a Tom Brady clone.

I don't think we even had Wilson in for a pre-draft visit LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones 01-31-2013 10:24 PM

@evansilva: Offseason QB predictions: AZ - Glennon BUF - Nassib CLE - Mallett JAX - Geno KC - Alex Smith NYJ - Flynn PHI - Vick (pay cut). Cassel to NE.

O.city 01-31-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9368406)
Yep.

Dilfer is friends with Alex Smith. Everything he says is candy-coated. Therefore, using him as a source it useless.

Why dust this get more talk? We have to throw out what dilfer said


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