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Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:04 PM

It doesn’t make you an awful person to speculate on when or if the game might be played given the importance of it and the lateness in the season.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 16704758)
Or add a team and add two byes?

Sent from my SM-F711U1 using Tapatalk

What do you do with the 7th seed?

FlaChief58 01-02-2023 09:04 PM

Just a horrible night. Praying that he recovers

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

what i ment to ask is if a person is in critical condition for a long period are they just going to postpone it every day? I guess since there is no precident

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16704752)
I wouldn't be surprised if this game is never replayed. The Bills and Bengals will keep their current records into the final game of the season.

All depends on Hamlin's status of course. His status likely determines if/when this game gets replayed. If he passes away, they're not playing tomorrow.

it's not looking good. I truly was not thinking he died but now I really starting to think so

ugh

backinblack 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

TO demolishing Skip Bayless on Twitter was sure something

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16704743)
Yeah. Just that simple.

Not sure how it wouldn't be.

FloridaMan88 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16704760)
My insensitive fiancé brought up a good point, are the fans going to be reimbursed in some way for this game? Too early to know, but any speculation?

Force Majeure

Rain Man 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16704723)
From a competitive standpoint, I’d love it if it were called a tie and they added another playoff team to the mix and no one had a bye.

There’s nothing fulfilling about the Chiefs potentially gaining literally any advantage from this outcome.

Just a really difficult situation outside the obvious.

I'd go for that. Or as someone else suggested, just do a random drawing for the #1 seed. We don't want this situation to be a deciding factor.

GloryDayz 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16704643)
Just horrible. Let them players leave the stadium.

100% this.

InChiefsHeaven 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

So...now they are replaying MNF Countdown?? THATS ****ing stupid...

EPodolak 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Hope we get good news about him before tomorrow.

Red Dawg 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

If the teams don't want to replay it they may just give the Bengals the win since they were up.

TwistedChief 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 16704758)
Or add a team and add two byes?

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No, because each of these 3 teams had a shot at a bye and none should be advantaged or disadvantaged as a result of this outcome.

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16704750)
The problem is the Chiefs have to play the same day as the Bills or cinci if the number one seed is on the line. So they would have to push back the Chiefs game too to Monday.

Why? They were already playing the Chiefs on a different day than those teams next weekend.

Mr. Plow 01-02-2023 09:05 PM

I've got a 24 year old. This is just flat out scary as a parent.

FlaChief58 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16704764)
What do you do with the 7th seed?

Give them the L they were going to get anyway

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16704769)
it's not looking good. I truly was not thinking he died but now I really starting to think so

ugh

The only information anyone has that is not bare speculation is that he had a pulse and was taken to the hospital, and his condition is listed as critical.

Titty Meat 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16704769)
it's not looking good. I truly was not thinking he died but now I really starting to think so

ugh

I hope you're wrong obviously. Having a top flight staff and a level 1 hospital just a few miles away with a pulse are encouraging things.

Jet Chip Wasp 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16704770)
TO demolishing Skip Bayless on Twitter was sure something

Skip Bayless deserves it. What an absolutely ignorant comment Skip posted on his Twitter.

jerryaldini 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Really don't give a shit about beating the bills if the young man does not come out well. It's more than an asterisk in any case.

comochiefsfan 01-02-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16704763)
It doesn’t make you an awful person to speculate on when or if the game might be played given the importance of it and the lateness in the season.

Yeah i kind of cringe when people rush to shame you for having any other thought besides praying for the injured.

Like obviously that's the top priority, but there are other things that will need to be addressed and just because you're considering them doesn't make you a terrible human.

It's not like anyone is wishing ill on the guy.

notorious 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16704752)
I wouldn't be surprised if this game is never replayed. The Bills and Bengals will keep their current records into the final game of the season.

This is what I think happens.

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

This sucks... Prayers to the young man.

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshirt32 (Post 16704739)
Nothin else matters at this point.

pretty sure if Hamlin was OK they would've played on...

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

the wierd thing about 9/11 is people wanted to play to say **** you to terrorist

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16704789)
Yeah i kind of cringe when people rush to shame you for having any other thought besides praying for the injured.

Like obviously that's the top priority, but there are other things that will need to be addressed and just because you're considering them doesn't make you a terrible human.

It's not like anyone is wishing ill on the guy.

Yeah, I mean… no one here is supposed to be giving him medical attention right now. It’s ok to wonder. It doesn’t mean you don’t care about the player.

comochiefsfan 01-02-2023 09:08 PM

This kind of mars the entire season.

Really really sucks.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16704794)
the wierd thing about 9/11 is people wanted to play to say **** you to terrorist

You really are a ****ing idiot. Jesus.

JustDíqLix 01-02-2023 09:08 PM

Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TripleThreat 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16704789)
Yeah i kind of cringe when people rush to shame you for having any other thought besides praying for the injured.

Like obviously that's the top priority, but there are other things that will need to be addressed and just because you're considering them doesn't make you a terrible human.

It's not like anyone is wishing ill on the guy.

Unfortunately that’s the world we live in… prayers to him, but if you add in another question about something related to the injury that doesn’t relate to the injury, you’re met with, how could you think of anything else at this moment in time?!?! You awful person you!

Imon Yourside 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16704791)
If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

That's been my question all along.

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16704791)
If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

i don't think it is but businesses move forward right or wrong

Womble 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

They better restart the game at the point where the injury occured and not play it out from the start. I know this probably isn't the right time to say it and I'm hoping we get some good news about Hamlin soon.

InChiefsHeaven 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16704790)
This is what I think happens.

? How would that work though? They'd only have 16 games...unless I'm not understanding what you mean...

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16704786)
I hope you're wrong obviously. Having a top flight staff and a level 1 hospital just a few miles away with a pulse are encouraging things.

oh me too. I just think if he was ok, they'd have called the coaches and there would've been a game tonight. the fact they actually canceled it makes me fear the worst. I do hope I am.wrong for sure

Gary Cooper 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16704791)
If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

No, it wouldn't be any better. It'd be like going to work the next day after a loved one dies or is in critical condition. Even playing next week will be difficult, but the Bills will have no choice but to play the Patriots.

Fishels 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16704794)
the wierd thing about 9/11 is people wanted to play to say **** you to terrorist

Why are you saying all this

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16704791)
If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

From an optics perspective it isn't at all. That's what makes this call so difficult.

Kman34 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Chip Wasp (Post 16704787)
Skip Bayless deserves it. What an absolutely ignorant comment Skip posted on his Twitter.

Hope ESPN fires that old woman or Shannon punches him on the next show..

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 16704557)
A lot of pulmonary embolisms going around lately...

Shut the **** up you dolt.

Bump 01-02-2023 09:09 PM

sad situation

St. Patty's Fire 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

i cant imagine how tee higgins feels rn

MagicHef 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16704723)
From a competitive standpoint, I’d love it if it were called a tie and they added another playoff team to the mix and no one had a bye.

There’s nothing fulfilling about the Chiefs potentially gaining literally any advantage from this outcome.

Just a really difficult situation outside the obvious.

That’s a really great idea. There is no way they will ever do it.

Jet Chip Wasp 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16704713)
I am told that Damar Hamlin has been intubated and is currently listed in critical condition. @fox19

Damn it

That is not good at all!

Excuse my language but I am ****ing sick as shit over what happened to him :deevee:

Rain Man 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16704798)
Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Honestly, I don't fault them. You have to make snap decisions in these situations and you don't always get it right.

And I don't mind people asking about football implications as well. It doesn't mean anything negative toward the player, who we all obviously care about, but we just have a lot of down time.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16704780)
I've got a 24 year old. This is just flat out scary as a parent.

I don't have kids but I do have nieces and nephews around that age and I can't imagine how to handle watching them get this kind of injury on TV

Just instant PTSD

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16704798)
Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We don’t really know who was aware of what as far as the player’s condition goes, or who supposedly said the game was going to continue and to warm up, if that actually occurred.

Gary Cooper 01-02-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16704805)
? How would that work though? They'd only have 16 games...unless I'm not understanding what you mean...

That's what we mean. They'll each have 16 games. Just like college teams don't all play the same amount of games. Will be an advantage for the Bills in the standings but that's obviously not how they intended it.

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16704791)
If the news is bad (and hopefully it isn’t), is playing tomorrow really any better?

yes , it's much better than playing it tonight..for sure

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16704818)
Honestly, I don't fault them. You have to make snap decisions in these situations and you don't always get it right.

Yeah, something like this has never happened before. There's no playbook on how to deal with this. Difficult stuff.

Tribal Warfare 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16704798)
Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

*17 game season, the league doesn't care about player safety because they increased the likelyhood of injuries

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16704808)
Why are you saying all this

other situations that effected seasons

KCUnited 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16704798)
Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not passing judgement on him at all but Burrow was taking practice throws.

Just a complete mind **** moment by the NFL there.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16704819)
I don't have kids but I do have nieces and nephews around that age and I can't imagine how to handle watching them get this kind of injury on TV

Just instant PTSD

His parents were there. I couldn’t even imagine seeing that happen.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlhD2GCX...pg&name=medium

SupDock 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Chip Wasp (Post 16704817)
Damn it

That is not good at all!

Excuse my language but I am ****ing sick as shit over what happened to him :deevee:

Critical condition seems like the only possible report. The other option would be dead.

jerryaldini 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16704807)
No, it wouldn't be any better. It'd be like going to work the next day after a loved one dies or is in critical condition. Even playing next week will be difficult, but the Bills will have no choice but to play the Patriots.

Agree and I'm sure enough players would refuse that it won't happen.

carcosa 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

They were gonna make them warm up for 5 minutes and keep playing. Unbelievable.

wbbonneriii 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Perhaps you just give the bills the L and do not play any of the week 18 games (out of respect for the situation) and then start the playoffs the week after. The Bills were going to lose this game before the injury. You could also just suspend the game indefinitely but if the news is bad the Bills and league will not want to play this coming weekend either.

EPodolak 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16704806)
oh me too. I just think if he was ok, they'd have called the coaches and there would've been a game tonight. the fact they actually canceled it makes me fear the worst. I do hope I am.wrong for sure

I hear you, I don't think there's anything definitive to report. Critical care means it's a precarious time for him.

BWillie 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16704803)
They better restart the game at the point where the injury occured and not play it out from the start. I know this probably isn't the right time to say it and I'm hoping we get some good news about Hamlin soon.

I dont know why anyone is speculating anything other than this. Of course they will start the game from when the injury occured.

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16704818)
Honestly, I don't fault them. You have to make snap decisions in these situations and you don't always get it right.

And I don't mind people asking about football implications as well. It doesn't mean anything negative toward the player, who we all obviously care about, but we just have a lot of down time.

exactly. what are they going to do, postpone every game ? I mean at that time they didn't know the details....its probably protocol

BryanBusby 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16704831)
They were gonna make them warm up for 5 minutes and keep playing. Unbelievable.

Roger is a total ****ing ghoul

Jewish Rabbi 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16704821)
That's what we mean. They'll each have 16 games. Just like college teams don't all play the same amount of games. Will be an advantage for the Bills in the standings but that's obviously not how they intended it.

That would not be an advantage for the Bills. 14-3 > 13-3.

philfree 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

TV people need to leave the air telling us that they'll report news as they get it. All this bloviating needs to stop.

Marcellus 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16704798)
Sickening.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever the league talks about player safety we should all remember that the NFL tried to make the players warm up for five minutes and restart this game before the coaches stepped in</p>&mdash; PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1610102534525575169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It’s just being hyperbolic. Nobody knew what was really going on at the time including whoever made that call. Injuries happen all the time and turn out to be scarier looking than reality.

This is just piling on at this point.

backinblack 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 16704810)
Hope ESPN fires that old woman or Shannon punches him on the next show..

he works for Fox Sports, but yeah

BWillie 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16704824)
*17 game season, the league doesn't care about player safety because they increased the likelyhood of injuries

Its always the NFLs fault...and Im growing tired of the narrative.

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16704829)
Critical condition seems like the only possible report. The other option would be dead.

Thanks for trying to educate the masses here, doc.

Yea, he’s going to be listed as critical.

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16704826)
Not passing judgement on him at all but Burrow was taking practice throws.

Just a complete mind **** moment by the NFL there.

This is an uncharted situation, and there’s no way to know who knew what and when.

Maybe everyone ought to decide not to leap to performative outrage and just have a little grace for each other.

notorious 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16704832)
Perhaps you just give the bills the L and do not play any of the week 18 games (out of respect for the situation) and then start the playoffs the week after. The Bills were going to lose this game before the injury. You could also just suspend the game indefinitely but if the news is bad the Bills and league will not want to play this coming weekend either.

Too much revenue to cut an entire week of games. The NFL won't say it, but it's the truth.

bobbything 01-02-2023 09:13 PM

I texted a friend who’s a surgeon and asked him, given what you saw and the fact he’s intubated and in critical condition, what is the outlook on something like that.

He said, “10% chance of survival.”

BWillie 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16704839)
It’s just being hyperbolic. Nobody knew what was really going on at the time including whoever made that call. Injuries happen all the time and turn out to be scarier looking than reality.

This is just piling on at this point.

Yep

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16704832)
Perhaps you just give the bills the L and do not play any of the week 18 games (out of respect for the situation) and then start the playoffs the week after. The Bills were going to lose this game before the injury. You could also just suspend the game indefinitely but if the news is bad the Bills and league will not want to play this coming weekend either.

They're definitely not giving the Bills a loss here after this. Bills could forfeit I guess, but I don't expect that either given how much the game means to them.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16704839)
It’s just being hyperbolic. Nobody knew what was really going on at the time including whoever made that call. Injuries happen all the time and turn out to be scarier looking than reality.

This is just piling on at this point.

This. It’s probably protocol for an injury. They needed time to figure out what to do.

RINGLEADER 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

There are hundreds of violent interactions that take place in every game every week in the NFL. You just never imagine one of them leading to this kind of an incident. Just an awful thing to see happen.

Prayers to Demar Hamlin and his family. Sending positive thoughts to them and the entire Bills organization.

Jewish Rabbi 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16704832)
Perhaps you just give the bills the L and do not play any of the week 18 games (out of respect for the situation) and then start the playoffs the week after. The Bills were going to lose this game before the injury. You could also just suspend the game indefinitely but if the news is bad the Bills and league will not want to play this coming weekend either.

No chance this happens. Not to mention we have no idea if the Bills would lose or not. It’s the first quarter.

George Liquor 01-02-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 16704845)
I texted a friend who’s a surgeon and asked him, given what you saw and the fact he’s intubated and in critical condition, what is the outlook on something like that.

He said, “10% chance of survival.”

Man


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