We only scored 22 points, but would have had more if Pacheco didn't fumble on the 9 yard line...

Starting to get nerves already. This will be the most nervous I’ll be for a Chiefs game in a few years.

Not because of the Eagles. It’s all about what this game represents. It’s a legacy breaker. Nobody has ever done this.

Being the best team ever is a height no other team can match. And it will push Mahomes up the board past Montana no question.

It would quite literally just be him and Brady.

Work has been nuts and I have not been able to really dig into news analysis or hot takes in the lead up to this game.

How are people around here feeling generally?

I think we have a coaching advantage...this is not the Rams or Commanders I think they are a really talented team who won't quite be ready for us.

I've been calmer than usual tbh although no doubt that changes on gameday. But for now i'm just taking it all in and let the chips fall where they may on Sunday. My belief in the team is high.

I was more nervous for last year's game. And the prior year's game against the Eagles. We already have a legit dynasty. 3 SBs in 5 years. Winning this game would make a special history but it's just padding what they've already accomplished. And yes, maybe that will change during gameday.

The last time this team lost a playoff game, we had one SB victory under our belts, plus a beating the prior year against Tampa. They've won two since. That should soften disappointment after our next loss, whenever it comes.

2027...

I've got that weird calm again.

I think they've got a talented team and it'll show, but the coaching and QB advantage is something thats hard to quantify into words. And it's not like we're scrubs either. It's just the difference between a Howie Roseman production of amazing talent vs a disciplined, battle hardened squad that's been in this spot before.

It boils down to leadership, which matters more than anything in a game of this magnitude. The Chiefs have a distinct advantage there.

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I think it's all icing on the cake. They've already done more than many of us could have expected over the last 6-7 seasons. And hopefully more to come in the future as well.

Who is he and why is what he says relevant?

I just can't see Andy getting out coached by Sirriani.

Hurts has proven he can raise his level of play. But Sirriani will not produce a better gameplan than Andy. It's not happening.

Like every game for the last several years, it will be all up to KC's execution. If they come out focused and execute, they'll win. If they pull their occasional keystone cops routine, they may lose.

I wouldn't bet against them.

I would agree with everything but coaching. I think Philly is another tick below where he has them.

I haven't started feeling nervous yet. That usually doesn't come until I hear what the good X's and O's guys start to uncover and talk about. Simms has already talked about the problems the Chiefs can cause the Eagles but not the other way around. I'm excited to see who he picks.

Is Goedert better than Kelce, or is he just benefiting from sharing the field with Devonta Smith, AJ Brown, and Saquon Barkley?

He picked the Bengals before the season started and then Ravens to win the AFC. Then picked the Bills to beat us and had openly called Philly the best team in the league. He did say the Chiefs offense have an advantage over the Philly defense though.

Lol wut?

So you agree with Hurts being that close to Mahomes?

Goedert over Kelce?

Their coaching being anywhere near ours either, more than a couple ticks.

I wouldn't.

Hurts and Goedert drastically, drastically overrated in that look. Also, as good as Baun was this year, KC's LB group is deeper and very proven.

But he's a troll.

Whomever this is is an idiot.

That dude is a ****ing moron and can’t be taken seriously.

Honestly I am calm about it. Philly is a very talented team, but KC has the better coaches and QB. Also I don’t see any area where KC is significantly worse than they were two years ago (outside of LG only because Thuney moved over to LT).

Plus they are as healthy as they have been all year.

The 2022 team had a lot of rookies starting that SB and now they are more experienced. Plus the WR situation is far better than it was two years ago.

Based on his other posts, he’s clearly trolling

I think we **** them up.

10 pt win. Last week looked close because somehow the Bills recovered 3 forced fumbles and 5 in total. As well as KC defenders dropping two easy INT's.

I think with our guys now having 3 years in this system with Spags he ruins Hurts. Takes this game over.

The Eagles are a beat up team with a quarterback who can't move very well.

They are standing on the train tracks of history.

Coaching and qb almost even?

LMAO

Okay I feel way better about this game. I didn’t watch the Packers game until just now on condensed mode.

My God what a disaster. Opening kickoff fumble by the Packers lead to the the Eagles only TD on great field position. Packers missed a FG. Love threw 3 INT’s including one where he threw it right at Baun LMAO. They fumbled 3X and barely recovered 2 of the 3.

So the Packers had 4 turnovers and a missed FG and it was still only 16-10 in the middle of the 4th quarter.

They barely beat a disastrous Packers team playing perfectly, beat a Rams team due to the snow and then beat an overachieving team that had a rookie QB and horrific tackling.

We are the better team here

I’ve said it for the last week.

Replicate Green Bay’s defensive effort and win.

Eagles offense is playing with confidence after the 55 point shellacking. Chiefs likely won’t get the Philly O that squeaked past GB. Hope the D line ****s them up.

Not that we need an edge to beat Fangio but Nagy was literally his boss

Ohh they are? You've seen them play since? :rolleyes:

They put 55 on a bad defense after getting 4 turnovers. It doesn't mean anything about how their offense will play in the SB.

You're the ****ing worst dude.

The better coach and quarterback almost always wins these games. We have top 2 all time at both. I don’t see a HOF trajectory for Sirianni or Hurts.

You think that’s crazy? I saw a stat earlier that showed Pat is 4-0 against the number one defense in the playoffs. Brady is 2-1. It blows my mind that out of 45 playoff games for Brady, he only faced the number one D 3 times. Mahomes at 20 playoff games has played 4.

Haven't looked at the numbers. But I am going to guess that is because Brady had the number 1 defense most of the time.

They aren't ****ing better at TE than us. GTFOH

The NFL Network is channel 666 on my cable.

"The Eagles have the best team in the free agency era"

"The Eagles have the best O-line since the 90s Cowboys"

"The Eagles have the best O-line, best D-line, best two receivers in football, and their secondary is great"

"The Eagles have all the advantages against the Chiefs across the board"

"Jalen Carter is the best defensive player in football"

"The Eagles losing last time is an advantage for the Eagles this time"

"I'm going to pick the Eagles this time"

CHRIS SIMMS TALKING TO AN EAGLES SPORTS GUY. I've heard guys hype up teams before. But that was next level glazing. It's not surprising because Simms has hated on the Chiefs all season and picked Cinci, Ravens and Buffalo all to go to the superbowl above the Chiefs. And since he's been proven wrong he's doubling down.

No, Brady only had the number one defense 3 times in his career.

Mahomes has a 2-8 record when he has to hold the ball 3.3 seconds. Philly is pretty good at covering the quick routes. I trust Andy to find the chinks in their armor and exploit it.

From the article

Kansas City has a 2-8 record in the 10 games when Mahomes held onto the ball longest on average. As the chart below shows, Mahomes' game-level production, measured by EPA per play, declines as his game-level average time to throw increases, per TruMedia.

To envision Mahomes struggling is to picture him unable to find open receivers quickly. Pressure mounting, Mahomes holds onto the ball longer. He scrambles and finally takes a sack, throws incomplete or throws for a short gain.

Tampa Bay accomplished this against Mahomes in the Super Bowl after the 2020 season. Denver did it against Mahomes in Week 8 of 2023. The Raiders beat him twice this way, in Week 5 of 2020 and Week 16 of 2023. Those four games and the 2018 AFC title game against New England produced Mahomes' five longest time-to-throw (or sack) games. Kansas City lost all five.

Opponents have pressured Mahomes on 34 percent of pass plays in his career. The Eagles pressured him at a 37 percent clip when they faced Kansas City in the Super Bowl two seasons ago, but as the table below shows, Mahomes' average time to throw or sack in that game — 2.69 seconds — was the second-fastest of his career in the playoffs. It was the 19th-fastest for all of his games. Kansas City has a 30-1 record when Mahomes' average time to throw or sack is less than 2.79 seconds.

That’s a bunch of absolute nonsense … that will be forgotten as soon as KC wins

The glazing was unbelievable tbh and the Eagles guy was there lapping it all up and acting like his team are far superior to KC. We've heard this all before and the disrespect and jealousy just continues to flow. If Simms is right then why weren't the Eagles the number one seed and why did they have three loses? Smh.

Washington was also playing with "confidence" after putting up 45 points on the Lions. Then they came back down to earth the following week against Philly and a had a great deal of trouble getting in the end zone. It's a week-to-week league.

1. Don’t turn over the ball
2. Block it up on the OL
3. Don’t let Saquon dominate
4. Get into situations where you can pressure Hurts

^ if those 4 things happen, KC can build an early two-score lead, and I’m not sure the Eagles and Hurts are built to really overcome that.

This. But if I did need to pick a team with the higher confidence level, I think maybe…..just maybe…..I might be inclined to pick the team who has won back to back Super Bowls, had the best record in the league this season, and has the best HC and QB in the league. Call me crazy.

The elephant that Spags is well aware of is every set of downs starts at 1st-and-8, because of the ease in which they execute the tush push.

He's going to force the issue I believe and make it where they'll either execute their asses off like SB57 and earn a bunch of yards, or we might just totally shut their shit down.

Yeah. And can they make the tush push work with Jurgens and Dickerson so compromised, against the Chiefs front?

Maybe the week of rest is enough to get those guys cleared, but backs and knees usually take a tad bit more time to really heal…

I wonder what the vibe of the team is. This next 60 minutes has been the moment they’ve thought about since they were handed the trophy last year. Make history. Gotta think it’s close to what the Pats were feeling leading up the the Giants SB to complete the undefeated season.

Wonder if they’re loose mentally preparing like it’s any other playoff game they’ve won, or is the pressure higher because of the implications of the next 60 minutes? Obviously we’ve got the best coaching staff in the league, but pretty sure the Pats did too.

I think it’s gonna be like every other game we’ve played for almost 2 years. Keep it close, and hope that Mahomes gets the ball last. If it comes to that, then it’s game over!

I’m not going to say they’re immune to the pressure, but the leaders of this team have so much experience with this moment. They failed at a repeat attempt. They succeeded at a repeat attempt.

The coaching staff is the same. They know how to prep the team to lock in and play well. The team knows how to handle the pressure and perform through it.

I can’t see the pressure of a three-peat being noticeably different.

Defense did not like what happened last time. They’re definitely looking at this like they have something to prove

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Those are some really bad takes by him. I am pretty surprised because I thought he was a big Mahomes/Reid/Chiefs fan. Granted I never watch him, so that could be why I was unaware.

Some thoughts:

1. While Philly has added some nice pieces to their team, so has KC. Anyone looking at this roster from top to bottom and thinks it’s worse than two years ago is simply biased. I mean who are the big losses (if you want to call it that) from the 2022 team? Brown Jr? Wylie? Gay? McKinnon? Clark?

2. KC has a huge coaching advantage.

Andy vs Sirianni = Andy and it’s not particularly close.

Nagy (basically Reid) vs Moore = Nagy (because of Reid) and it’s not close.

Spags vs Fangio = Spags easily. Taking nothing away from Fangio, but if the NFL ever started considering coordinators for the HOF, Spags would be first ballot. He’s one of the best to ever do it.

Toub vs. Clay = I am leaning Toub because of how good our special teams have been under him for a long time. He gets hate on here, but he’s a really good ST coach.

3. I said it last year before the playoffs and I am sticking to it. Give me the team with the most experience in the playoffs every time until someone knocks them off. That experience has been crucial during this three year run. They are never fazed by what’s going on and believe they can/will win every game. That can be intimidating to other teams.

Yeah, it's hard to fathom... Mahomes has talked about having a "Super Bowl routine" and him & Kelce haven't shown postseason jitters for several years now (it was 100% definitely a thing for a couple seasons).

One thing I find interesting and impressive is how they plug in guys who also seem immune to it... Toney and Moore have even made huge plays on the biggest stages.

And as a fan, I still think about how that impacts those guys, because I know I'll be stressing the **** out in the 4th quarter, yet it just... doesn't.

I should have put some money on the two teams making the Super Bowl because for a while now I've thought Eagles/Chiefs... everyone was marking down the Lions in permanent marker, but nah, with the 49ers out and Eagles rolling again, give me the one team in the NFC that has been there/done that (of course with some risk from melting down the previously season).

Playoff/SB experience just isn't talked about when all the flavors of the week are discussed over the course of the regular season, along with low-adversity games being the worst thing you can look at to determining who will do well in the playoffs. The Eagles and Chiefs have seen some shit.

Belichick was a fool in SB 42. He tired the Pats out in practice during SB week and they came out flat in the biggest game in NFL history. If the Chiefs are loose throughout the week, they should be alright. If they are uptight because history is staring directly at them, then it could be a long night.

IMO the only way the Eagles are going to win this is if they keep Pat off the field. This game will be won based on the chess match between Spags and Moore. The offense will get its points if they are on the field, but if the Eagles are getting 7-8 minute drives it's not a good sign.

People (analysts), including our own fans, shit all over the Chiefs and their record all season. They were “lucky”, “not as talented”, “losing a step”, “vulnerable”, blah, blah, blah. What they were, was a team getting ready for the real season (Playoffs), and not interested in winning the stats and style points trophies. This is a team that knows how to prepare itself to win the biggest games. This is a team that is focused to be ready in the biggest moments. The analysts can yap and drool all they want about the Eagles individual talent, but I am betting on the best Team - The Chiefs of Kansas City.

DB Coach Dave Merritt says "to be honest with you" to start out the conversation.

Whenever I hear someone say that I tell myself get ready for the big lie.

You know, for all the complaints about the slippery field and how much of an advantage it was for the Chiefs because it slowed down the Eagles' great pass rush. But how about making it harder to cover people in the secondary? McDuffie and Sneed struggled in that game. How much did the field help Brown and Smith?

Just a random counterpoint thought...

Yeah, the whole "KC is worse" thing, I don't get at all. Where are they worse?

Not at QB (and you can argue they're better because Mahomes is not on a bad ankle). Not at WR (they are better). Maybe a little at TE (Kelce is not quite that player any more but Gray is also better). Not on the OL (they're better at RT, the same at LT, and worse at LG). KC is better on the DL (Karlaftis is better, Jones is still dominant, Omenihu is a much better #2 DE than anyone on that team, Wharton is available). KC is not as athletic at LB but is Chenal-Bolton-Tranquill worse than Bolton-Gay-Chenal? Maybe they're a little worse at nickel CB. They're better/the same at S.

Yeah this game is different in that perspective. There have been great teams in history, incredible coaches, but even they couldn't accomplish what we're trying to do. Bill had the greatest team of all time, and even he failed to accomplish the undefeated season. This is uncharted territory.

The only thing you can hope is the guys don't let that get in their heads. It's just another game, just another Super Bowl.

Yeah, Hurts lit up our secondary the last time. I didn't expect that.

It was more about two blown plays by Sneed and McDuffie and Goedert making great plays than Hurts lighting up the secondary.

Nearly 1/3 of his passing production came on 2 plays. Sneed getting completely lost and allowing a big gain by Smith. McDuffie losing the ball in the lights and allowing the Brown TD.

I want this game for Patrick. He will never have a head to head playoff victory against Brady. Who knows if he’ll play long enough to top Brady’s accrued over 2 decades. This is the one thing that he can do that will take him from legend to immortality. I pray he’s not thinking about that though. To me, this game solidifies him and Brady as 1 and 2 and in their own tier.

I actually hope he is thinking about it. That drives Patrick to another level of focus, the higher the pressure, the better the play. One of the few in any sport to have that gene.

Agree with this. Mahomes thrives on this shit.

There is ZERO chance he's not thinking about it.

He's one of those rare pairings of talent and historical drive.

He WANTS to be remembered forever and knows this is something that further cements him among the legends of all the sports. This puts him on the football Rushmore along with Brady, Rice and maybe Reggie?

And even that wouldn't be enough. He'd wanna be on the sports Rushmore. Like, Jordan, Ruth, Gretzky and Mahomes sort of thing.

The guy's pathological. Yeah, he wants this. He's thought about it.

Thanks to Dee Ford and Bob Sutton.

I think Mahomes had a place rented in NO for family and friends before the season started , he has had this game on His mind all year , I think he evolves into his final form this Sunday .

and the OT coin toss

Wasn't he saying something like "we got to get 3 it's never been done before" on stage to CJ immediately after the last SB?

I've gotta think, outside of Barkley rushing for 150+ yards we win this game.

Belichick did a really good breakdown about stacks and bunches and how the motions pre-snap move players and the post snap bunches do the same.

They have 2 rookie corners. Both have been really good, but Belichick highlighted how much Andy Reid forces LB’s and corners to think very quickly to get guys out of position.

He thinks Andy is gonna come out in 11 personnel and do exactly that’s. And on each drive he’ll run the same look with a different wrinkle to keep them guessing.

I think Andy said something about one more also at the podium. They wanted back to back so bad after the first one. But everything that surrounded LV was just too much to win. When we beat Philly last time for the ring, I’m sure they weee thinking the same thing. Back to back. So they’ve probably been thinking about this even if silently for a long time. The fact they were openly talking about it in the locker room during the season just cements it. We have the better coach, quarterback, DC. Those 3 things are gonna be difficult to overcome as all the teams before them have found out. Especially when their coach is a ****ing lunatic. God his meltdown will be worth the price of admission!

We're not losing this game. Andy's constant vibe in the last two days is "I have the winning hand and it's going to be fun laying it down."

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Two major things Brady didn’t get.

A threepeat and a perfect season.

There’s a 100% chance Patrick has both of those circled. He went into the season saying threepeat, and even when we were 9-0, that always remained the priority.

They generally ****ing hate soccer.

I've read all 75 pages of this thread over two days and I really just want to emphasize **** soccer and the Eagles.

Philly’s kicker has been shit all season , that could be the difference.

Didn't they bring in Vic bundle of sticksgio as a "defensive consultant" before the last Super Bowl?

Yup.

They will be so amped up to stop corn dog Reid has been saving the counter to it for 2 years it’s going to be glorious

Not for the defense. They actually brought him in to be an offensive consultant actually.