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Why Not? 05-23-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16955826)
For all the hype about Eric Squints Hosmer he sure is retiring with some average numbers

Was worth every penny the Royals ever paid him. IDGAF what he did post KC.

DanT 05-23-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16955257)
I'm genuinely curious here and not being an ass, but what MLB stars were average at best through their first 700 PAs? It'd be nice if just for once one of our big time prospects came out of the gate and just dominated.

It's not based on 700 PAs, but here's who Baseball Reference lists today as the top 10 batters that are most similar to Bobby Witt through his age (22 years old):
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...wittbo02.shtml

Name (Similarity Score)
Omar Infante (953.1)
Dick McAuliffe (953.0)
Asdrúbal Cabrera (950.5)
Luis García (950.4)
Tony Lazzeri (948.9) *
Ron Hunt (946.7)
Jackie Hayes (946.3)
Ron Hansen (944.4)
Alex Gonzalez (943.7)
Jorge Orta (943.0)

* signifies a Hall-of-Famer.

dlphg9 05-23-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT (Post 16955837)
It's not based on 700 PAs, but here's who Baseball Reference lists today as the top 10 batters that are most similar to Bobby Witt through his age (22 years old):
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...wittbo02.shtml

Name (Similarity Score)
Omar Infante (953.1)
Dick McAuliffe (953.0)
Asdrúbal Cabrera (950.5)
Luis García (950.4)
Tony Lazzeri (948.9) *
Ron Hunt (946.7)
Jackie Hayes (946.3)
Ron Hansen (944.4)
Alex Gonzalez (943.7)
Jorge Orta (943.0)

* signifies a Hall-of-Famer.

Only one of these guys were stars. This doesn't really answer my question.

duncan_idaho 05-23-2023 05:32 PM

With Witt, you hope it's a sophomore slump.

If you're convinced it is, this would be the perfect time to do the extension for him.

Previous regime would bet on his character and drive and try to make it happen. Not sure this one is willing to do that. Dumping Dozier before Memorial Day would seem to indicate otherwisde.

poolboy 05-23-2023 05:51 PM

Royals are on the hook for Doz's salary. I assume

duncan_idaho 05-23-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16955935)
Royals are on the hook for Doz's salary. I assume

It's baseball. That money was guaranteed and sunk the second he signed the deal.

Those deals tell the tale of the small market. If you're right, it's a great value. If you're wrong, it's a mess and a real hindrance.

poolboy 05-23-2023 06:20 PM

Sherman must have made the decision to allow a chunk of fairly big chunk of dead money....I cant recall that happening with the Royals in the last few years...maybe he will give it back like Gill

dlphg9 05-23-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16955947)
Sherman must have made the decision to allow a chunk of fairly big chunk of dead money....I cant recall that happening with the Royals in the last few years...maybe he will give it back like Gill

Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

dlphg9 05-23-2023 07:07 PM

I think it's time for Drew Waters to come up while he is scorching hot. Dudes been crushing it over the last week and has seemed to hit his stride.

poolboy 05-23-2023 07:11 PM

cmon on out and play Billy boy

poolboy 05-23-2023 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16955960)
Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

whats it called then?

BWillie 05-23-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16955495)
Witts first full season offensively is comparable to Francouers best seasons

That is just complete misinformation.

Francoeurs best seasons
1. 2005 (.884 OPS)
2. 2011 (.805 OPS)
3. 2007 (.782 OPS)

Or by WAR
1. 2005 (3.0)
2. 2007 (3.0)
3. 2011 (2.7)

Witt Jr so far
1. 2022 (.722 OPS and 0.9 WAR)
2. 2023 (.664 OPS and extrapolated to 0.9 WAR in full season)

Im really interested to see how he would do in the OF. I think he could be a really good one if he puts his mind to it. We wanted Hosmer to go to the OF too but he just pouted.

poolboy 05-23-2023 07:24 PM

so, he had three seasons out of 16 better than Jrs first full season?

Ocotillo 05-23-2023 07:28 PM

I would have loved to have seen Witt on a typical development schedule, but 2020 made sure it would never happen. Because he's not on a typical development schedule, there's not many good comps for him. I think he's in a unique situation in the draft era.

WhawhaWhat 05-23-2023 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16955960)
Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

Dead money against the salary cap and dead money against a payroll budget is still dead money.


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