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|Zach| 10-02-2011 09:40 PM

Of course there isn't a guarantee.

This is sports and we are not reeruned.

HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7963100)

So, its purely a financial motivation for you. That's fair.

|Zach| 10-02-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7963116)
Going to a conference that is not going to break apart and leave you on the outside looking in of the BCS is part of the better opportunity.

Better exposure on the national stage is another.

More money for the school is yet another, and being part of a league wide network as an equal partner is a huge part of that.

The fact that said money will be guaranteed, since the SEC will not dissolve, as opposed to any BIG XII contract, which becomes worthless the second Texas and OU leave is still another.

I am responding to this sooo....

These don't work as points anymore. Create new ones.

/HH thread rules.

HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7963106)
You responding to something does not make it invalid.

So, we're back to avoidance. OK.

mnchiefsguy 10-02-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7963110)
Well, the PAC said they aren't taking the LHN and they have basically said no to OU. Texas doesn't want to go independent because they don't want to have to ship their non revenue sports all across the country.

Mizzou may very well be fine in the SEC, but there is no guarantee of that anymore than the Big XII won't continue to go on, and succeed, even if they do so as "the Bickersons".

Just because Texas does not want to go independent at this moment in time does not guarantee they are going to stick around. If it nets them more money, Texas would be out the door before anyone knew what hit them.

I don't think that the PAC said no to OU...I think they said no to OU and OSU as a package. They were willing to swallow it if Texas was in the deal, but if the PAC could just get OU without little brother, I think they would be all over it.

HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7963123)
Of course there isn't a guarantee.

This is sports and we are not reeruned.

I was just responding to the post. I didn't bring up guarantees.

|Zach| 10-02-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7963125)
So, its purely a financial motivation for you. That's fair.

Stability.

I know you think that isn't a big deal but it is the main reason that is obvious to people who are not KU rationalizers acting dumb in conversations.

dirk digler 10-02-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7963125)
So, its purely a financial motivation for you. That's fair.

It is always about the money and as Zach said stability. I would throw in just overall fairness as well.

|Zach| 10-02-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7963144)
I was just responding to the post. I didn't bring up guarantees.

Do you think the SEC and the Big 12 have the same level of stability?

mnchiefsguy 10-02-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7963123)
Of course there isn't a guarantee.

This is sports and we are not reeruned.

There are no guarantees, but the SEC is the strongest conference in the country, and is as close to a guarantee as one can get.

HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7963143)
Just because Texas does not want to go independent at this moment in time does not guarantee they are going to stick around. If it nets them more money, Texas would be out the door before anyone knew what hit them.

Yes, but you have to paint the plausible scenario. This is just projecting a worse case scenario with a really small chance of probability. It would take Texas wanting to move their sports team to some other region AND another conference that is willing to put up with the arrangement.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7963143)
I don't think that the PAC said no to OU...I think they said no to OU and OSU as a package. They were willing to swallow it if Texas was in the deal, but if the PAC could just get OU without little brother, I think they would be all over it.

It would take OU if UT was included. UT has the LHN which the PAC has said it is not willing to accommodate. Therefore, the PAC does not want OU.

|Zach| 10-02-2011 09:47 PM

There is no reasonable incentive for Missouri to go to the SEC. None that I can see. The Big 12 is doing FANTASTIC these days.

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HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7963150)
Stability.

I know you think that isn't a big deal but it is the main reason that is obvious to people who are not KU rationalizers acting dumb in conversations.

No, I think that's a fair point. I don't know why it took so long to come around to it. Oh yeah, because first you wanted to blame it on the competitive and recruiting disadvantage of the LHN. Please, pull up where I said I didn't think stability wasn't a big deal. But, you do realize, right now, you are as much the cause of the instability as anyone else. It seemed somewhat hypocritical when OU used this rationale, and I don't think it is any less so when MU does.

mnchiefsguy 10-02-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7963168)
Yes, but you have to paint the plausible scenario. This is just projecting a worse case scenario with a really small chance of probability. It would take Texas wanting to move their sports team to some other region AND another conference that is willing to put up with the arrangement.



It would take OU if UT was included. UT has the LHN which the PAC has said it is not willing to accommodate. Therefore, the PAC does not want OU.

The PAC would take my dog and a jar of change if Texas was included in the bargain. Texas becoming independent and trying to be the next Notre Dame is not a worst case scenario, it was the endgame for Texas before the super conference mentality became all the rage. Texas truly believes that they are on that level of national following.

Plus, Texas can go independent in football but let the rest of their sports stay in what remains of the BIG XII. Since everyone in this conference is their bitch, they could get away with it. Is Kansas going to be for giving Texas the complete boot if they want to pull out in football? I doubt it.

HolyHandgernade 10-02-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7963159)
There are no guarantees, but the SEC is the strongest conference in the country, and is as close to a guarantee as one can get.

They are the strongest football conference in the country. Academics, sports other than football and baseball, they aren't nearly as strong. Remember when MU was going on and on about the academics in the B1G as the reason they wanted to leave last year? Well, you and Vanderbilt will now probably have two things in common if and when you go there.


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