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htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13763994)
I was just using your talk about how a dynasty is insanity talk.

They haven't won 2 playoff games in a season in 30 years and you're all in for a SB.
It's like the difference between the odds of winning a scratcher and the odds of winning Powerball.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13764006)
He said he was born the same year that the Chiefs won the SB, which puts him in the same boat as me. So, yeah, we could go at any time. :D

I do have a hooded sweatshirt that reads "Just one before I die".
ROFL

Great Expectations 09-26-2018 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764004)
If giving up picks for Earl Thomas because picks are so precious makes no sense, bundling multiple high picks for one player who may or may not even play makes less than no sense.
It made sense for Mahomes.

O.city 09-26-2018 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764004)
If giving up picks for Earl Thomas because picks are so precious makes no sense, bundling multiple high picks for one player who may or may not even play makes less than no sense.
This is why I'd be more likely to make the trade. I'm not all about multiple picks if theres a guy you want that could be a legit blue chip player, go trade the picks and go up and get him.

My biggest issue with Earl is the contract.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 13764011)
It made sense for Mahomes.
So you're taking the one striking statistical outlier and putting that stake in the ground?

The need defensive help and the last time they traded multiple picks for a defensive player, they got Breeland Speaks.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13764012)
This is why I'd be more likely to make the trade. I'm not all about multiple picks if theres a guy you want that could be a legit blue chip player, go trade the picks and go up and get him.

My biggest issue with Earl is the contract.
Why?

What worries you about the contract? When has a contending team EVER had trouble working the cap to get a guy they want?

Is it because we won't be able to sign players 2 years down the road? That's just silly. Money is never an issue, only an excuse.

Great Expectations 09-26-2018 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764013)
So you're taking the one striking statistical outlier and putting that stake in the ground?

The need defensive help and the last time they traded multiple picks for a defensive player, they got Breeland Speaks.
It is a pretty good and recent outlier....

I’d trade a 2nd and 3rd for Thomas. If the long term signing wasn’t too expensive I’d trade a first for him.

Mecca 09-26-2018 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13763926)
It's like the Interwebs and Google don't exist...
Marcellus doesn't think they exist either...I think that's cause it's me posting it though.

O.city 09-26-2018 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764016)
Why?

What worries you about the contract? When has a contending team EVER had trouble working the cap to get a guy they want?

Is it because we won't be able to sign players 2 years down the road? That's just silly. Money is never an issue, only an excuse.
Not really that, just with his age and wear and tear I’m not sure giving him a big deal works out well

RunKC 09-26-2018 09:14 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Price needs to come down. <a href="https://t.co/CSGPkJ9Wgf">https://t.co/CSGPkJ9Wgf</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1044952648003260417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Veach is playing this right. The price WILL come down by 10/30. Seattle will be monumentally stupid if they ask for a 1st, refuse a 2nd and keep this guy to only get (at best) a 3rd rd comp pick.

Mecca 09-26-2018 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13763939)
I think teams value them more than they should be valued actually.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13764029)
Not really that, just with his age and wear and tear I’m not sure giving him a big deal works out well
There's no guarantee a young guy with no wear and tear doesn't bust an ACL in camp and is never the same. See also: Dee Ford

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13764032)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Price needs to come down. <a href="https://t.co/CSGPkJ9Wgf">https://t.co/CSGPkJ9Wgf</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1044952648003260417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Veach is playing this right. He price WILL come down by 10/30. Seattle will be monumentally stupid if they ask for a 1st, refuse a 2nd and keep this guy to only get (at best) a 3rd rd comp pick.
If it gets done, I see it getting done before the deadline only because you're right and Seattle will realize the same before 10/30.

O.city 09-26-2018 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764039)
There's no guarantee a young guy with no wear and tear doesn't bust an ACL in camp and is never the same. See also: Dee Ford
Obviously, the odds of an older player breaking down faster is going to be larger.

Sassy Squatch 09-26-2018 09:18 AM
The argument is more "why give up the assets when you don't have to?" You can walk away from this with both Earl Thomas and only give up a 2nd and change.


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