yep, they bat like have for 3 games in a row. they deserve to go home.

I think the Giants will get smoked by the Tigers. Tehy only have 2 pitchers and major holes in their 1-9 lineup.

I ask again - if they blow this game, how can you not walk away from blowing 3-1 series lead and 2 decent pitching matchups, without feeling wildly disappointed?

That's the thing about these sorts of deals - they don't happen in a vacuum. If you don't make the playoffs, you should be disappointed. If you lose in the NLDS, you almost always had a chance to win it and how can you honestly walk away from your average NLCS loss not thinking that you should have/could have won?

If we lose this game, I will view this season as nothing more than the season where we blew a 3-1 series lead that we never should have lost because the team came out like dogs for 2 straight elimination games and set themselves up against one of the 3 best pitchers in the NL for a win or go home game on the road. Your 'list' becomes irrelevant once the ball is on your racket with an easy chance to win...then you mail it in against Barry !@#$ing Zito and his 84 mph gas.

And what's so damn bad about being disappointed? Without disappointment, there's no ambition.

Of course I'll be disappointed. However, that's doesn't mean I will consider the whole season a disappointment.

Count me out as having the mindset of every season its a World Series or else its a disappointing season mentality.

If SF wins tonight they will have won 6 straight elimination games in the post season. Thats a tall order.

The Cardinals win as often as they do because they see an 85 win season or a first round playoff exit as a disappointing year.

They got to this level by being disappointed in less. Teams that are in the playoffs each year re-set their expectations.

Ultimately, when this stage of their competition cycle is over (and it will happen sooner or later), you re-set your calculus again and change how you view certain goals. That said, for a veteran team with a top 10 payroll, the playoffs should be expected. And once you get to the playoffs, virtually any elimination is going to make a season a disappointing one.

Right now, with this squad where it is, I don't see how losing tonight doesn't make this a failed season. Not after watching Matheny's slow hook in both Lynn starts. Not after watching them roll over and die in two elimination games.

It's not just "Hey! The Cardinals made the NLCS and lost in seven!" It's the totality of how that occurred. Given the talent on this squad and the breaks that helped us get here (i.e. things like no Strasburg and the 2nd wildcard), there can be very few positives taken from the season at large if they finish this collapse.

There won't be a cliff. If Cain starts choking Bochy will pull him immediately and pitch by committee. He will have a very short leash.

Eh, that's what I'd say if I were Bochy as well.

Cain was throwing darts his last time out. He made one bad pitch to MCarp or he could've gone 8 without giving up a run.

I'll believe Cain's not right when I see it. I think he's the best power pitcher in the NL and power pitching is the coin of the realm in October.

Hey.....would you assholes finish this so I don't have to hear all of these douchebag Giants fans anymore?

That's the thing he is a power guy but his last outing he wasn't overpowering guys, he just had good stuff

I bet drag queens make obnoxious fans. If the Giants win, it'll give SF an excuse to have a gay pride parade.

Just take a Pamprin already

I'm not sure you are one.....but the ****ing bandwagon fans up by me are horrible to be around. Almost as bad the as the A's fans around here.

Are A's fans comparable to Faid fans at all? I know nothing about them.....

Baseball tonight was showing that he was off. He would miss the target of his catcher time and time again. The hitters were swinging at balls and trying to his his pitch.

On the surface, you think Cain is in trouble WTF? Did you watch his last game? He was lights out.

Not totally buying it myself. Just trying to find some hope. :rolleyes:

NTTIAWWT