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Bowser 03-11-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13460936)
No shit, Dunerdr.

If Paul Richardson was anything resembling Sanders, SEA wouldn't be letting him to the market.

Robinson and Watkins have both proven to be elite talents/gamebreakers when healthy. Robinson is in no way in that category.

Helps the Robinson's of the world to have a Doug Baldwin playing on the other side of the field, as well. We all know Tyreek is a true weapon, but he isn't a 90-100 catch guy just yet.

Plus, I really don't feel like WR is a priority on this team considering the holes we have elsewhere. I'm a Marcus Kemp fan and would love to see what he could do as our 3rd or 4th WR.

RunKC 03-11-2018 10:41 AM

I don’t want to spend on a Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson. It would be like too many cooks in the kitchen. We’ve got an amazing 3 headed monster attack in Hill, Kelce and Hunt that hurt defenses badly with Alex ****ing Smith. Mahomes is just going to magnify that.

Just add a complimentary weapon through the draft or FA without spending much and utilize your money on LG and defense.

We saw Mahomes make Albert Wilson look like Julian Edelman. He’s gonna make a #2 and #3 receiver look way better than they are.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-11-2018 10:42 AM

I wonder if there’s any chance that we after Norwell still. It’d be a surprising but great signing.

staylor26 03-11-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13460936)
No shit, Dunerdr.

If Paul Richardson was anything resembling Sanders, SEA wouldn't be letting him to the market.

Robinson and Watkins have both proven to be elite talents/gamebreakers when healthy. Robinson is in no way in that category.

You mean like the Steelers let Sanders hit the market?

Revisionist history at it’s finest.

Also, NOBODY is saying he’s in that category. He’s just a cheaper option.

OnTheWarpath15 03-11-2018 10:47 AM

This place cracks me up.

I've been here for 12 years now, and for every one of those years, people here have been pissed that we don't have enough weapons at WR - that our WR1 would be a good WR2/3, that we have no depth at the position, etc.

Now, we have a legit WR1 but nothing but question marks on the other side - with a (basically) rookie QB and plenty of cap space - and the ability to add a legit weapon...and people are saying we're fine?

Weren't we ranked like 27th in red zone scoring?

Mahomes has played one game against a Denver team who had mailed it in. I love the guy, and can't wait to see how his career plays out - but expecting him to turn slapdicks like Albert Wilson into studs because of one game is ridiculous.

There's no reason why we can't use FA and the draft to fill holes. Hell, NOW is exactly the time to do it, while we have 15 on a rookie deal.

BryanBusby 03-11-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13460949)
I wonder if there’s any chance that we after Norwell still. It’d be a surprising but great signing.

Would say zero. They aren't paying LT cash for a Guard.

Chief Northman 03-11-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13460833)
Was tooling around with Spotrac this morning...

According to their metrics, Allen Robinson's market value AAV is $13M a season, Watkins is listed at $5.9M and Richardson at $6.3M.

This changed recently.

Not long ago, Watkins was pegged around $9 million, and Robinson was between $11-12 million. Richardson’s number has held pretty steady between $6-7 million.

I wonder what they factor in for these substantial changes to Watkins’ and Robinson’s numbers?

Rausch 03-11-2018 10:49 AM

So my dream back end was sealed up by the Rams?

Sounds like a KC offseason...

OnTheWarpath15 03-11-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13460953)
You mean like the Steelers let Sanders hit the market?

Revisionist history at it’s finest.

:facepalm:

Pittsburgh had just drafted Wheaton who they thought could replace Sanders, Seattle has NOTHING behind Baldwin.

I don't understand the logic of wanting to spend $7M per on a guy that isn't guaranteed to be any better option than what's on the roster currently. Spend on an elite player, or don't bother.

Chief Northman 03-11-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13460954)
This place cracks me up.

I've been here for 12 years now, and for every one of those years, people here have been pissed that we don't have enough weapons at WR - that our WR1 would be a good WR2/3, that we have no depth at the position, etc.

Now, we have a legit WR1 but nothing but question marks on the other side - with a (basically) rookie QB and plenty of cap space - and the ability to add a legit weapon...and people are saying we're fine?

Weren't we ranked like 27th in red zone scoring?

Mahomes has played one game against a Denver team who had mailed it in. I love the guy, and can't wait to see how his career plays out - but expecting him to turn slapdicks like Albert Wilson into studs because of one game is ridiculous.

There's no reason why we can't use FA and the draft to fill holes. Hell, NOW is exactly the time to do it, while we have 15 on a rookie deal.

Exactly.

The playoff game should be proof enough of why another WR threat is needed. As exciting as Hill is as a playmaker, teams will begin to defend him better. He is no secret anymore and not a high volume player with regards to touches. When Kelce went down in the Wildcard, Hill was contained.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-11-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13460956)
Would say zero. They aren't paying LT cash for a Guard.

Probably right. Someone is though, probably with loads of cap space.

BryanBusby 03-11-2018 10:53 AM

The Chiefs will sign a couple mediocre players and the usual gang will be in here to explain why they don't suck, Veach is actually a super genius and John Dorsey is a horse ****er.

That will be this week on CP.

staylor26 03-11-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13460960)
Pittsburgh had just drafted Wheaton who they thought could replace Sanders, Seattle has NOTHING behind Baldwin.

Tyler Lockett > Markus Wheaton

Try again.

Also, how do you know that they don’t plan on drafting one also?

Coogs 03-11-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13460968)
Exactly.

The playoff game should be proof enough of why another WR threat is needed. As exciting as Hill is as a playmaker, teams will begin to defend him better. He is no secret anymore and not a high volume player with regards to touches. When Kelce went down in the Wildcard, Hill was contained.

I would say Smith was contained when Kelce went down. Videos show open players.

TRR 03-11-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13460946)
I don’t want to spend on a Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson. It would be like too many cooks in the kitchen. We’ve got an amazing 3 headed monster attack in Hill, Kelce and Hunt that hurt defenses badly with Alex ****ing Smith. Mahomes is just going to magnify that.

Just add a complimentary weapon through the draft or FA without spending much and utilize your money on LG and defense.

We saw Mahomes make Albert Wilson look like Julian Edelman. He’s gonna make a #2 and #3 receiver look way better than they are.

Agreed if all three (Hunt, Hill, Kelce) can stay healthy for 16+ games. You lose one of the three though, and the KC offense goes from fairly explosive to fairly ordinary. Hopefully Mahomes, in time (yes it is going to take time) can take the Reid offense to a new level.

I’ve said it before. Look what Pederson did for his young 2nd year stud QB. Did he stand pat with Agholor and Green-Beckham and hope that Wentz could take them to the next level??? **** no! He went out added Alshon and Torrey Smith. There is no reason why the #2 WR spot shouldn’t be an area of focus for KC and Mahomes this offseason.


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