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duncan_idaho 01-25-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362506)
Are you guys a monolith? Do the other posters here speak for you?

Because the posters (not you) who are expressly stating that the results of this game do not matter in the sense that no matter whether the Chiefs win or lose they are still in a different class are puffing on copium and definitely trying to make themselves feel better.

The results of this game are less legacy-defining for the Chiefs, Mahomes, and Reid than they are for the Ravens.

There's no copium in that statement.

Chiefs win and go on to the Super Bowl, when so much had gone wrong up to the playoffs AND hurdling a team that had so much go right this year? OK, they stamp their dynasty legacy and keep Mahomes pacing favorably with Brady for GOAT status.

Chiefs lose, the floor for their season is the same (AFC championship game), and that is with a ton of things going wrong for them throughout the season (Penalties, turnover margin, WR room not coming together effectively).

If the Ravens don't win Sunday despite having so much go right this year, it's a damning hit to Jackson's legacy and presents the questions of "if the Ravens can't get over the Chiefs' hurdle THIS Year, what/when/how are they going to get over it in the future?"

But again. It's rich to see people saying Chiefs fans are seeking validation or puffing on copium ... on our own message board.

Marcellus 01-25-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17362553)
The results of this game are less legacy-defining for the Chiefs, Mahomes, and Reid than they are for the Ravens.

There's no copium in that statement.

Chiefs win and go on to the Super Bowl, when so much had gone wrong up to the playoffs AND hurdling a team that had so much go right this year? OK, they stamp their dynasty legacy and keep Mahomes pacing favorably with Brady for GOAT status.

Chiefs lose, the floor for their season is the same (AFC championship game), and that is with a ton of things going wrong for them throughout the season (Penalties, turnover margin, WR room not coming together effectively).

If the Ravens don't win Sunday despite having so much go right this year, it's a damning hit to Jackson's legacy and presents the questions of "if the Ravens can't get over the Chiefs' hurdle THIS Year, what/when/how are they going to get over it in the future?"

But again. It's rich to see people saying Chiefs fans are seeking validation or puffing on copium ... on our own message board.

Simply put, the majority of the pressure is absolutely on Lamar and the Ravens. Its undeniable. This is their BEST chance to beat KC and if they don't, well its going to go down as a huge failure.

KC loses and it wont be perceived as a huge failure.

PurpleOrange 01-25-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17362530)
Nope.

What used to be devastation, is now only disappointment.

You lose the AFC Championship at home, Ravens fans will be devastated.

We've been there, done that.

For me at least it would have to take something really awful (13 seconds) to be devastated by a loss Sunday. Losing at home in 2006 when we Peyton Manning and Colts scored 0 touchdowns yet the Ravens still lost was brutal, the Lee Evans/Billy Cundiff game were brutal. We lose a close game that could go either way I'll tip my hat. Disappointed yes, devastated, probably not.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-25-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17362530)
Nope.

What used to be devastation, is now only disappointment.

You lose the AFC Championship at home, Ravens fans will be devastated.

We've been there, done that.

This.

If the Ravens lose this one, you all will feel just like we did when we lost to the Patriots in the 2018 AFC Title Game. Devastated.

Of course, Mahomes and the team more than made up for it by coming back in 2019 and winning it all.

We'll see how Lamar responds going forward, win or lose. Can he string together a couple title game appearances back to back? (as opposed to, say, just a random number, like six)

wazu 01-25-2024 01:37 PM

Stakes are incredibly high for both teams. Obviously for the Ravens Lamar hasn't won one yet, but the Ravens have won a couple in the past 20 years-ish, and Lamar did just take his team to the AFCCG which can't be considered a failure.

For the Chiefs it's the last opportunity to get back-to-back Superbowls with the majority of this crew. And as Nick Wright pointed out, they are 2 wins away from having the greatest 5-year run in NFL history. Not to mention an instant slam-dunk top 3 NFL dynasty of all time. Will KC be embarrassed if that doesn't happen? No, of course not. But the opportunity is so rare. It's probably not going to come again.

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:39 PM

You know what is interesting to me about all this..

Roquan Smith, Kyle Van Noy...Marcus Williams all acting extremely confident, talking shit like they got this right along with the fan base..

Lamar Jackson...acting completely different saying he doesn't like facing Mahomes, it's like one of these guys knows what's coming.

Hammock Parties 01-25-2024 01:39 PM

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FloridaMan88 01-25-2024 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17362557)
For me at least it would have to take something really awful (13 seconds) to be devastated by a loss Sunday. Losing at home in 2006 when we Peyton Manning and Colts scored 0 touchdowns yet the Ravens still lost was brutal, the Lee Evans/Billy Cundiff game were brutal. We lose a close game that could go either way I'll tip my hat. Disappointed yes, devastated, probably not.

First home AFC Championship Game in Baltimore since the early 1970’s.

A Ravens loss will be devastating… despite our attempts to downplay it.

OneWinningDrive 01-25-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17362553)
The results of this game are less legacy-defining for the Chiefs, Mahomes, and Reid than they are for the Ravens.

There's no copium in that statement.

Chiefs win and go on to the Super Bowl, when so much had gone wrong up to the playoffs AND hurdling a team that had so much go right this year? OK, they stamp their dynasty legacy and keep Mahomes pacing favorably with Brady for GOAT status.

Chiefs lose, the floor for their season is the same (AFC championship game), and that is with a ton of things going wrong for them throughout the season (Penalties, turnover margin, WR room not coming together effectively).

If the Ravens don't win Sunday despite having so much go right this year, it's a damning hit to Jackson's legacy and presents the questions of "if the Ravens can't get over the Chiefs' hurdle THIS Year, what/when/how are they going to get over it in the future?"

But again. It's rich to see people saying Chiefs fans are seeking validation or puffing on copium ... on our own message board.

What exactly went wrong for KC this year? Your GM constructed a mid roster by not getting any receivers? And that’s hand waved away? You did that.

Also suggesting that a guy is in the GOAT conversation while also explaining away how a loss as acceptable is incongruent. If he’s the GOAT, he wins this game. He beats the DVOA darlings with the MVP in their house. If he doesn’t win that game, it matters. As a non-Chiefs fan, I’ll tell you right now that I won’t think of him the way people here want me to. Because people here aren’t saying he’s very good—they’re saying he is the greatest to ever do it. Then prove it no matter the circumstances.

If you construct a mid roster and the baby goat loses, you’re not who people on this board are telling me you are. You don’t have the Pats’ cache, not even close. You might think you’re “on track,” but you’re not there just as much as no one here will give credit to Lamar/the Ravens for being “on track” for a Super Bowl when it’s all said and done. You have to actually do it in games like this. Defend your title.

Spinning this narrative that this game is a win/win for the Chiefs should be beneath you if you think these guys are who you say they are.

FloridaMan88 01-25-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362499)
The reality is I think it's actually useful to remove yourself from the echo chamber that is your bubble and expose yourself to opinions you might instinctively disagree with for the sake of expanding your own horizons and creating a dialogue with other people to facilitate sharing ideas.

You have manically posted 150+ posts here during the past 24 hours. ROFL

And each subsequent post sounds more incoherent.

The Chiefs are living rent free in your head and your fear is palpable.

seamonster 01-25-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17362528)
Did you flee Kansas to come to DC for actual work? Definitely a transplant because a local would know there aren't many Ravens fans in PG County.

LOL...You're in a glass house (or basement). Maryland is a crime ridden trashed state that unloads hundreds of thousands of its depressed residents on Virginia. They flock here. They'll probably lose a seat in the house if it keeps up. I think I heard a few years ago that Maryland lost the most residents of any mid-atlantic state and most came here...To Virginia.

FloridaMan88 01-25-2024 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362527)
We've drafted several GOATs, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. We signed Justing Tucker as an undrafted FA. Jonathan Ogden is considered one of the greatest LT of all time.

None of those players are the greatest of all time at their respective positions.

GOAT fail by you.

Try again.

Iowanian 01-25-2024 01:48 PM

Baltimore doesn’t provide the country with anything but a smelly wharf, one long ti me CP member and a QB that sounds like simple jack when he talks.

Ray Lewis got destroyed by Brian waters…and he should be in prison for murder.

The only true thing Baltimore provides as a city is a location for hbo crime series.

KCJake 01-25-2024 01:48 PM

I don't care how fast Lamar can run. Dumb quarterbacks just don't scare me. And he seems dumb.

PurpleOrange 01-25-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 17362599)
Baltimore doesn’t provide the country with anything but a smelly wharf, one long ti me CP member and a QB that sounds like simple jack when he talks.

Ray Lewis got destroyed by Brian waters…and he should be in prison for murder.

The only true thing Baltimore provides as a city is a location for hbo crime series.

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