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RunKC 09-26-2018 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13764075)
I'm also pretty jaded from the recent high priced Chiefs vets getting hurt though.
You can’t pussy out on every single signing because a guy “might” get hurt.
Right now this is a giant bitchfest because of Berry and Houston.

And Houston shouldn’t really count. He’s still elite vs the run and has 12.5 sacks in his last 19 games.

Mecca 09-26-2018 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13764089)
Meh. We've been just fine winning games without him so far and we beat the Chargers and Steelers already.
That defense namely a safety being out of position all the time will cost this team a game sooner or later.

Sassy Squatch 09-26-2018 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13764093)
That defense namely a safety being out of position all the time will cost this team a game sooner or later.
Unless you think Berry is ****ed beyond repair (which the Chiefs don't) that's going to be taken care of soon.

Simply Red 09-26-2018 09:37 AM
so are you guys indicating we won't be able to do anything w/ ET until around trade deadline? Or do you feel something could still get done, soon? I'm not overly familiar w/ the flow of these things, admittedly.

Spott 09-26-2018 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13763989)
Not really, but I fully expect to die before the Chiefs win it all. Yeah, I'm really freaking jaded... :D
Same here. I fully expect to live to be a hundred and still not see them in a Super Bowl.

Marcellus 09-26-2018 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13764027)
Marcellus doesn't think they exist either...I think that's cause it's me posting it though.
No I’m just certain your post was a bunch of pompous horseshit which is standard for you.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13764073)
If I'm the Chiefs, I let it play out some more in Seattle. In just 1 week the relationship has deteriorated to the point where it's all but irreparable.
Definitely true.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13764084)
Count me in for NOT bundling high draft picks for Earl. If there's any way to do this that doesn't include giving up more high picks, fine. Otherwise, stay with the long game, keep getting younger and build from there.

Either way, I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Earl without renegotiating existing contracts.

FAX
Sorry FAX, I just can't get on board with it.

Now if Speaks or KPass suddenly blows up and gives me at least some feeling these guys know how to draft defense, fine.

But right now, to me, those picks are largely worthless outside of using them to get Thomas.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13764100)
so are you guys indicating we won't be able to do anything w/ ET until around trade deadline? Or do you feel something could still get done, soon? I'm not overly familiar w/ the flow of these things, admittedly.
Something could get done at any time.

It's all going to depend on the Seahawks figuring out that they're going to have to lower their price. If they wait too long, they're going to screw themselves.

oldman 09-26-2018 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13764006)
He said he was born the same year that the Chiefs won the SB, which puts him in the same boat as me. So, yeah, we could go at any time. :D

I do have a hooded sweatshirt that reads "Just one before I die".
Youngster. :)

I have no problem giving up a 2 and maybe a 3 IF, and only if, he's here for 3-4 years and doesn't kill our cap money. This discussion started by giving up whatever for a rental vs. whatever for a long term, high money contract. I'm sorry, I just don't see this team in the SB THIS year, let alone win it. Add a couple more pieces next year (CB and Ragland replacement) and yes, now you have a pretty young team that can be a contender for years. I don't want 1 SB win, I want 3 or 4.

The Franchise 09-26-2018 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764115)
Something could get done at any time.

It's all going to depend on the Seahawks figuring out that they're going to have to lower their price. If they wait too long, they're going to screw themselves.
They're better off getting him out of that locker room right now. That's just my opinion though.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13764118)
Youngster. :)

I have no problem giving up a 2 and maybe a 3 IF, and only if, he's here for 3-4 years and doesn't kill our cap money. This discussion started by giving up whatever for a rental vs. whatever for a long term, high money contract. I'm sorry, I just don't see this team in the SB THIS year, let alone win it. Add a couple more pieces next year (CB and Ragland replacement) and yes, now you have a pretty young team that can be a contender for years. I don't want 1 SB win, I want 3 or 4.
ROFL

As my pops used to say "want in one hand"...

Simply Red 09-26-2018 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13764111)
Sorry FAX, I just can't get on board with it.

Now if Speaks or KPass suddenly blows up and gives me at least some feeling these guys know how to draft defense, fine.

But right now, to me, those picks are largely worthless outside of using them to get Thomas.
Side-note (nothing to do w/ this conversation) but rather an observation being 15 ft from him.

Kpass looks like the meanest player on our team and he towers over other players in height. He gave me a very dirty look.

O.city 09-26-2018 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13764091)
You can’t pussy out on every single signing because a guy “might” get hurt.
Right now this is a giant bitchfest because of Berry and Houston.

And Houston shouldn’t really count. He’s still elite vs the run and has 12.5 sacks in his last 19 games.
Big 3rd contracts just turn catastrophic so many times.

I'm not a fan of giving them out.

htismaqe 09-26-2018 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13764125)
Side-note (nothing to do w/ this conversation) but rather an observation being 15 ft from him.

Kpass looks like the meanest player on our team and he towers over other players in height. He gave me a very dirty look.
He's 6'7" or something like that. Probably as good a reason as any, he'll never be a solid edge rusher.


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