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Marcellus 01-04-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17889147)
They’ve played very good defenses and Thuney has looked good at LT. This is the best the line has looked by far this year and in return Mahomes looks like he used to.

Would be dumb to change it now

You are using the term “good” compared to 2 dumpster fires. He hasn’t been “good” he has been less of a dumpster fire and as others have mentioned he an Caliendo have killed our run game.

Imon Yourside 01-04-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17889011)
Of course Reid is pulling for the guy. He's the best chance they have of being at max strength in the playoffs. I still don't think Thuney at LT is sustainable.

I do think Thuney is sustainable especially for a playoff run. We have something to fall back on even if Andy makes the switch.

TRR 01-04-2025 11:37 AM

If we were talking Thuney at LT and Allegretti at LG for a playoff run, I think it’s a different story. But the other piece to the equation is how average Caliendo has played. Not glaringly bad, but not good either.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17889148)
You are using the term “good” compared to 2 dumpster fires. He hasn’t been “good” he has been less of a dumpster fire and as others have mentioned he an Caliendo have killed our run game.

This is nonsense. The Chiefs running game has been up and down all season. It has nothing to do with Thuney being at LG or LT.

BossChief 01-04-2025 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17889148)
You are using the term “good” compared to 2 dumpster fires. He hasn’t been “good” he has been less of a dumpster fire and as others have mentioned he an Caliendo have killed our run game.

Nah. He’s been good. The Steelers and Texans have “game wrecking quality” pass rushes and neither got a sniff of Mahomes.

Give the man some credit.

New World Order 01-04-2025 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17889148)
You are using the term “good” compared to 2 dumpster fires. He hasn’t been “good” he has been less of a dumpster fire and as others have mentioned he an Caliendo have killed our run game.

The offense is starting to look elite again and you’re worried about the run game. Our interior line is plenty good enough to run the ball

htismaqe 01-04-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17889160)
The offense is starting to look elite again and you’re worried about the run game. Our interior line is plenty good enough to run the ball

The offense looks good because they're helping Thuney and getting the ball out quick. Thuney is still giving up a lot of pressures.

BossChief 01-04-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17889165)
The offense looks good because they're helping Thuney and getting the ball out quick. Thuney is still giving up a lot of pressures.

He has given up 4 pressures the last 2 games combined.

And only 1 QB hit.

Chris Meck 01-04-2025 12:30 PM

The best possible scenario for the play-offs and for next season is that Humphries is good to go. It improves and stabilizes TWO positions on the line.

htismaqe 01-04-2025 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17889181)
He has given up 4 pressures the last 2 games combined.

And only 1 QB hit.

The Pitt game was Mahomes' fastest average release time in his career. The Texans game was his fastest since week 4, 2021. They obviously changed the play calling. And it's obvious why they did.

Thuney is a stopgap. Nothing more.

New World Order 01-04-2025 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17889165)
The offense looks good because they're helping Thuney and getting the ball out quick. Thuney is still giving up a lot of pressures.

I have a hard time believing the LT position is much more stable because they’re “helping him.”

Thuney is a much better tackle than Morris or Kingsley and it’s showing.

htismaqe 01-04-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17889221)
I have a hard time believing the LT position is much more stable because they’re “helping him.”

Thuney is a much better tackle than Morris or Kingsley and it’s showing.

Never said Thuney wasn't better. But they're going to need an even better effort in the playoffs. If you really think going into the playoffs with your LG at LT is a good idea, I don't know what to tell you.

New World Order 01-04-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17889225)
Never said Thuney wasn't better. But they're going to need an even better effort in the playoffs. If you really think going into the playoffs with your LG at LT is a good idea, I don't know what to tell you.

What’s the alternative? A guy who hasn’t played a game in a full year, coming off acl tear and hamstring injuries?

Unless Humphries looks good tomorrow, Thuney is the best option

DJ's left nut 01-04-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17889213)
The Pitt game was Mahomes' fastest average release time in his career. The Texans game was his fastest since week 4, 2021. They obviously changed the play calling. And it's obvious why they did.

Thuney is a stopgap. Nothing more.

And if you'll recall, the Chiefs pass rush win rate (hold your blocks for 2.5 seconds) was among the best in football.

When PMs release time falls below 2.5 seconds suddenly the sack figures square with the win rate.

We made things incredibly difficult on both tackles all season both in terms of blocking assignments and simple scheme. Until Thuney. With Thuney we turned the sliders down quite a bit and that's what a good staff SHOULD do.

It's not an indictment on Thuney - it's just a recognition that the bar that Humphries needs to clear to get in there isn't nearly as high as has been suggested. If he's simply in football shape he can absolutely play just as well as Thuney has if that's the kind of offense we continue to run.

If it is, we get the added advantage of better IOL play. If it's not, Thuney couldn't run it anyway (he's getting beat up by power - can't do long developing routes if the LT is getting walked backwards).

We should absolutely hope that Humphries looks good Sunday because he would help this team a lot.

htismaqe 01-04-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17889236)
What’s the alternative? A guy who hasn’t played a game in a full year, coming off acl tear and hamstring injuries?

Unless Humphries looks good tomorrow, Thuney is the best option

If coach thinks DJ can go, he should. That's the ideal situation. We shouldn't settle for Thuney until we have to and guess what? That's still 2 weeks away.


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