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staylor26 03-27-2025 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18012095)
Doesn't have ideal size or arm length. Not saying that's bad, it's just not ideal.

The combine measurements were supposedly bullshit this year. That's why so many guys measured short. Pro days have been more accurate and he measured in at 34" arms. He just makes the cut.

htismaqe 03-27-2025 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18012015)
Kingsley's traits are fine - his brain just gets in the way.

His kick slide and footwork are more than adequate at OT when he's decisive in his movements. It's not his feet that kills him -- its his head.

I don't think Conerly's physical traits are on par with Kingsleys - the latter is just more physically impressive to me. But he's more comfortable from what I can see. He uses his angles well to address his weaknesses in strength and length.

This.

staylor26 03-27-2025 02:24 PM

Cowherd says an NFL exec told him the Steelers like Milroe and will take him in the 1st round LMAO

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1...907669017?s=46

Please be true. The more QBs the better.

Rausch 03-27-2025 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 18011469)
Dude is also uncoachable. There's the reason why the Texans have been trying to unload this guy for two seasons now. More trouble than what he's worth.

They were turning down offers to trade him. Apparently Veach asked last year.

kccrow 03-27-2025 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18012101)
The combine measurements were supposedly bullshit this year. That's why so many guys measured short. Pro days have been more accurate and he measured in at 34" arms. He just makes the cut.

They look like bullshit when you have a bunch of 6'6" to 6'8" guys measuring at 33". It just doesn't seem right, especially en masse. When I watched the footage, it didn't look like they were taking measurements in the normal fashion. Very odd. Some of these guys, you look at them on tape and you can tell they have long arms and are keeping guys out of their chest and then they measure in at 33" and you're like WTF? I think you're totally onto something.

htismaqe 03-27-2025 05:09 PM

Yeah, I wasn't talking about combine measurements. I just knew that Conerly's arms were on the shorter side. He's a good player with a solid floor. I just wouldn't trade up for him. I don't think he's worth that much and I don't think he's guaranteed to start right away. He would essentially be another arrow in the proverbial quiver. If they're going to throw numbers at it anyway, I'd rather have more speed at 31.

Chris Meck 03-27-2025 05:18 PM

Well, see, Veach placed a Chiefs scout on the arm measurement team with an incorrectly marked tape measure.

Easy 6 03-27-2025 05:42 PM

No one gives a damn what I think, but there is a -0% chance we go LT at #1

We already have 3 different inexpensive, in house LT options ready to battle it out in camp... the best D lineman on the board is the only sane choice

Then gimme a 4.4 or better back with hands at #2, none of this 220 dudes running a 4.5 at best who can't get outside vs NFL defenses... we need triples and homeruns, consistent 30-60 yarders

We need greasy fast speed at RB, its time to spend big on a Henderson type

kccrow 03-27-2025 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18012015)
Kingsley's traits are fine - his brain just gets in the way.

His kick slide and footwork are more than adequate at OT when he's decisive in his movements. It's not his feet that kills him -- its his head.

I don't think Conerly's physical traits are on par with Kingsleys - the latter is just more physically impressive to me. But he's more comfortable from what I can see. He uses his angles well to address his weaknesses in strength and length.

Are the "physical traits" something we're just conjuring up in our heads or hearing from talking heads? What is it? Because all of you guys that keep regurgitating this as truth can look at them right here and tell me how one is so much better than the other...

Suamataia
6'4-5/8", 34-1/4" arms, 326 lbs, 10-5/8" hands, 5.04 40, 1.74 10 split, 28" vertical, 9'2" broad, 31 reps

vs

Conerly
6'4-5/8", 33-1/2" arms, 311 lbs, 10-3/8" hands, 5.05 40, 1.71 10 split, 34.5" vertical, 8'7" broad (arm length is debatable; pro day is 34" and probably more accurate than combine)

The guy who played better, looked smoother on tape, and did it against better competition happens to be Conerly, too.

RealSNR 03-27-2025 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18012138)
Cowherd says an NFL exec told him the Steelers like Milroe and will take him in the 1st round LMAO

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1...907669017?s=46

Please be true. The more QBs the better.

I hated Kenny Pickett as a prospect, but I respected the Squealers for at least trying.

For this one? No. They do not deserve an A for effort.

bringbackmarty 03-27-2025 10:39 PM

Potato salad.

Tribal Warfare 03-27-2025 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 18012387)
No one gives a damn what I think, but there is a -0% chance we go LT at #1

We already have 3 different inexpensive, in house LT options ready to battle it out in camp... the best D lineman on the board is the only sane choice

Then gimme a 4.4 or better back with hands at #2, none of this 220 dudes running a 4.5 at best who can't get outside vs NFL defenses... we need triples and homeruns, consistent 30-60 yarders

We need greasy fast speed at RB, its time to spend big on a Henderson type

If you want Speed Score hero then it's Bhayshul Tuten. He's right there with Pacheco in that area.

Jamie 03-28-2025 12:43 AM

For what it's worth, Mike Tice thinks Conerly is the best OL in the class.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Episode is out now! And it did not disappoint.<br><br>We talked about 11 OL prospects, including a surprising choice from my dad for his OL1 in this class (that I endorse!) <a href="https://t.co/8yREk9O9Uk">https://t.co/8yREk9O9Uk</a> <a href="https://t.co/NivI5obiM4">pic.twitter.com/NivI5obiM4</a></p>&mdash; Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1905441624572002811?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 03-28-2025 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18012463)
Are the "physical traits" something we're just conjuring up in our heads or hearing from talking heads? What is it? Because all of you guys that keep regurgitating this as truth can look at them right here and tell me how one is so much better than the other...

Suamataia
6'4-5/8", 34-1/4" arms, 326 lbs, 10-5/8" hands, 5.04 40, 1.74 10 split, 28" vertical, 9'2" broad, 31 reps

vs

Conerly
6'4-5/8", 33-1/2" arms, 311 lbs, 10-3/8" hands, 5.05 40, 1.71 10 split, 34.5" vertical, 8'7" broad (arm length is debatable; pro day is 34" and probably more accurate than combine)

The guy who played better, looked smoother on tape, and did it against better competition happens to be Conerly, too.

For the record, my opinion on Conerly was lodged prior to the combine. I watch a ton of B1G football and I watched him all year. I've said it several times - he kind of reminds me of a poor man's Rashawn Slater. He's obviously a little smaller, you can see it on tape. But he's smart and has good technique.

I'm not against taking Conerly at 31. I'm absolutely against trading up for him.

DJ's left nut 03-28-2025 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18012138)
Cowherd says an NFL exec told him the Steelers like Milroe and will take him in the 1st round LMAO

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1...907669017?s=46

Please be true. The more QBs the better.

It would be aggressive to the point of reckless but IF they traded down with KC and took Dart with that 1st (you don't want to come out of the 1st and lose the 5th year on him) it might make some sense for them.

Or if they trade down with anyone else in the late 1st.

I'm not seeing Milroe but I could see him being used as a smokescreen to get their hands on Dart.

I don't think it's a wise pick but man, if you need a QB (and they do) you've gotta take some swings. Dart has some NFL skills -- the rest is just how well he develops.

It's a defensible decision.


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