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The Franchise 03-04-2021 10:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CC: Brett Veach<br><br>Talked to Teven Jenkins.<br><br>He said KC &gt; Texas BBQ and he likes playing on the right side.<br><br>Just sayin&#39;</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1366488347343020040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-04-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571618)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CC: Brett Veach<br><br>Talked to Teven Jenkins.<br><br>He said KC &gt; Texas BBQ and he likes playing on the right side.<br><br>Just sayin&#39;</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1366488347343020040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Love it, but I don’t think he makes it to 31, and if we draft him it would likely be to play LT (unless they like Niang there).

Easy 6 03-04-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571618)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CC: Brett Veach<br><br>Talked to Teven Jenkins.<br><br>He said KC &gt; Texas BBQ and he likes playing on the right side.<br><br>Just sayin&#39;</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1366488347343020040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude is apparently drawing interest from a LOT of teams, gotta wonder if he'll be there for us at 31

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15571626)
Love it, but I don’t think he makes it to 31, and if we draft him it would likely be to play LT (unless they like Niang there).

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15571627)
Dude is apparently drawing interest from a LOT of teams, gotta wonder if he'll be there for us at 31

What would it take to get from 31 to around 20? A 2nd round pick next year?

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:08 AM

Chargers moved from 37 to 23 for a 3rd round pick last year.
49ers went from 31 to 25 for a 4th and 7th.

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:10 AM

In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.

Easy 6 03-04-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571641)
In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.

If Veach and co really like him I wouldn't complain, lock down one of the tackle spots for the next ten years

staylor26 03-04-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571641)
In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.

I’m al for it, but like Nate Taylor mentioned on the Time Is Yours podcast, a lot of the people picking ahead of us will be looking for a T as well. Finding a trade partner could be difficult, but it’s definitely a possibility.

saphojunkie 03-04-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15567786)
We NEED whatever the draft board has available. If that's DE, CB, LB, OT, WR, or whatever, we shouldn't let the draft board be completely dictated by happenstance.

Just because you'e been successful at acquiring cheap help at CB or OT means you abandon the other options for acquiring them.

I mean, we got Wharton as a UDFA so maybe we shouldn't spend high draft picks on DL either, right?

My one addendum to your good post.

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15571652)
I’m al for it, but like Nate Taylor mentioned on the Time Is Yours podcast, a lot of the people picking ahead of us will be looking for a T as well. Finding a trade partner could be difficult, but it’s definitely a possibility.

Yeah, I think we’d need to get up into the 18-20 range to grab one if we want one.

saphojunkie 03-04-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571606)
Reaching for an OT in the first one when there’s better talent on the board is how you **** over your team. If he’s equal with other different positions than by all means....take that OT and be good with it. If he’s the 12th rated OT and you pass on the 3rd rated DE....then that’s ****ing stupid.

Unless the 12th rated tackle is a better player than the 3rd rated DE. Which, obviously 1) that won't happen and 2) 11 tackles aren't going in the first 30 picks. It's just a hypothetical.

All I am saying is, a lot of the talk here has shifted since Veach said he is "hopeful" that both guys are back for training camp. That just seems like really wishful thinking. Hoping it doesn't flood and preparing for it are different things.

My dream scenario is signing Linsley, drafting IOL in the 4th-6th, and using one of our first two picks on a tackle who can kick inside to guard if/when Fisher and Schwartz both come back. But I don't think it's safe to bet they both will.

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:26 AM

What the **** do you do on the offensive line if you trade up for him?

Do you say **** Schwartz and start Jenkins at RT? Do you put him at LT if Fisher isn’t ready? What do you do with Niang?

Easy 6 03-04-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571672)
What the **** do you do on the offensive line if you trade up for him?

Do you say **** Schwartz and start Jenkins at RT? Do you put him at LT if Fisher isn’t ready? What do you do with Niang?

Make him and Niang compete for LT, whoever loses slides to RT and hopefully gives us 10 year bookends

The Franchise 03-04-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15571678)
Make him and Niang compete for LT, whoever loses slides to RT and hopefully gives us 10 year bookends

Are they backups if Fisher and Schwartz are able to play this year? Trading up for a backup RT isn’t going to sit well.

staylor26 03-04-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15571681)
Are they backups if Fisher and Schwartz are able to play this year? Trading up for a backup RT isn’t going to sit well.

Yea it’s a tough situation.

Honestly, I think they’re better off getting a DE in the 1st then taking Hudson, Little, or Smith on day 2.


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