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RunKC 03-28-2025 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18010235)

Verderame talked about this on his Patreon today. Breer is his boss so he clarified that the Chiefs really want a LT but he said from everything he’s heard he would be surprised if they take one in the first rd. He just doesn’t think this tackle class is good and has heard the same from a lot of people around the league.

Said that they could take one at 63 or 66.

Still think Conerly is in play still. However I think that Ersery could be there at 63 and he’d be a nice replacement for Jawaan in 2026 IMO.

Chris Meck 03-28-2025 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18012829)
Next year's 2 might get you close.

Then maybe a pick swap of our 2 for their 3rd round pick at 83 and maybe a 6th (pick 185)?

So we give:

31
63
2026 2nd

We get

20
83
185

And to be clear, I'm not even sure I'd do that. I don't know that I have any desperate desire to move up to 21. I'm just saying that I could see a world where that sort of maneuver is on the table. We have the Titans pick to mitigate moving down from 63 to 83 and we'd also get that pick in the 6th to close up that gap we have on day 3 a bit.

I could see it being somewhat appealing for Veach and it's within spitting distance of a 'fair' deal either direction.

Yeah, I don't think I would trade up in the first AT ALL. I'd love to trade DOWN and pick up some extra capital.

I just don't see anyone likely to be in striking distance that's head and shoulders above several other guys that would just fall to you.

I think rounds 2-3 are really the sweet spot in this draft. Lots of good player potential, but few day one stars.

Dunerdr 03-28-2025 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18012962)
Huh? If you're talking DT only then yeah, but they've spent two first round picks back to back on Karlaftis and FAU and given some pretty sizable contracts to Omenihu and Danna.

Im talking dt.

Sassy Squatch 03-28-2025 12:56 PM

Not interested in a trade back at all. Veach has done his best work being aggressive and going up for a particular player, like Rice, McDuffie, or Worthy. Settling or trading back for the sake of more capital are how we've ended up with the scrubs like Moore and FAU.

RealSNR 03-28-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18013191)
Not interested in a trade back at all. Veach has done his best work being aggressive and going up for a particular player, like Rice, McDuffie, or Worthy. Settling or trading back for the sake of more capital are how we've ended up with the scrubs like Moore and FAU.


To be fair, we also traded up and targeted Breeland Speaks

Rausch 03-28-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18013191)
Settling or trading back for the sake of more capital are how we've ended up with the scrubs like Moore and FAU.

Giving more draft picks to a GM who's proven they can find quality players late in the draft is always a good idea.

The more cheap quality players you have the better. That's the whole goal.

Sassy Squatch 03-28-2025 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18013195)
To be fair, we also traded up and targeted Breeland Speaks

Yeah, an outlier in his first year on the job.

duncan_idaho 03-28-2025 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18013198)
Giving more draft picks to a GM who's proven they can find quality players late in the draft is always a good idea.

The more cheap quality players you have the better. That's the whole goal.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Yeah, Darrian Kinnard didn't work out, but when you look at all the Day 3 guys this front office has drafted who have been real assets, the idea of adding Day 3 picks should hold some value.

htismaqe 03-28-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18012973)
Verderame talked about this on his Patreon today. Breer is his boss so he clarified that the Chiefs really want a LT but he said from everything he’s heard he would be surprised if they take one in the first rd. He just doesn’t think this tackle class is good and has heard the same from a lot of people around the league.

Said that they could take one at 63 or 66.

Still think Conerly is in play still. However I think that Ersery could be there at 63 and he’d be a nice replacement for Jawaan in 2026 IMO.

The talking heads see the same thing a lot of us do - this isn't a great tackle class and even if it was, those late first guys have a pretty high rate of either moving to guard or flaming out altogether.

This is not the draft to get tunnel vision on a tackle.

duncan_idaho 03-28-2025 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18013231)
The talking heads see the same thing a lot of us do - this isn't a great tackle class and even if it was, those late first guys have a pretty high rate of either moving to guard or flaming out altogether.

This is not the draft to get tunnel vision on a tackle.

Absolutely.

I wouldn't take Simmons before 63.

I wouldn't take Conerly over Nolen, Tyleik Williams, Burden, or one of the clear 1st DEs who has fallen.

If it gets to 31, there's a scenario where Conerly is the best guy there.

RunKC 03-28-2025 01:43 PM

Wonder if the combine measured these guys wrong or if the programs are embellishing at the pro days?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s not just Will Campbell - the difference in his arm measurement is actually smaller than many of the top players from both the Senior &amp; Shrine Bowls<br><br>Seems like the NFL may have gotten something wrong at the Combine. I&#39;d think teams want to get their own numbers this year <a href="https://t.co/5FfbYEjxA6">pic.twitter.com/5FfbYEjxA6</a></p>&mdash; Alex Barth (@RealAlexBarth) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealAlexBarth/status/1904979196822028627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-28-2025 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18013259)
Wonder if the combine measured these guys wrong or if the programs are embellishing at the pro days?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s not just Will Campbell - the difference in his arm measurement is actually smaller than many of the top players from both the Senior &amp; Shrine Bowls<br><br>Seems like the NFL may have gotten something wrong at the Combine. I&#39;d think teams want to get their own numbers this year <a href="https://t.co/5FfbYEjxA6">pic.twitter.com/5FfbYEjxA6</a></p>&mdash; Alex Barth (@RealAlexBarth) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealAlexBarth/status/1904979196822028627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They clearly ****ed it up.

Sassy Squatch 03-28-2025 02:30 PM

The odd thing is it was so obvious.

staylor26 03-28-2025 02:48 PM

The biggest takeaways is that Conerly, Benton, and Ersery meet the 34" threshold now.

Tribal Warfare 03-28-2025 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18013337)
The biggest takeaways is that Conerly, Benton, and Ersery meet the 34" threshold now.

Simmons is over 34 too


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