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His 2011 and 2012 seasons probably register as "great" offensive season, but he's been more of an above-average hitter than a great one.

At 8.4/WAR, he needs to produce 8.5 WAR for the Royals to break even. I think it's reasonable to hope he gives you one more great all-around season 4-4.5 WAR, legit all-Star level), one more above average, and then a couple as a quality/average type starter.

I expect he'll see some time at 1B in 2018 and 2019 as well (as will Salvador Perez), but still play some Lf (unless his defense in LF remains above-average).

Of course, if someone stakes a claim to 1B in the meantime, that could change. I

Forgot about his 2011 numbers. Yes he was elite at the plate that year. I still thought he'd be a better hitter at this level, a consistent 275-25-90 guy. But he is so damn good in the field and base paths it barely matters.

His HR game 1 was an epic moment not only in Royals history, but baseball history. That's a clip you will be able to see in Cooperstown when you go visit.

Is he worth it? The FA market skewed so heavy towards pitching this year. It left a ton of position guys in the dust. Maybe there is a diff WAR calc for hitters this year??

siberian khatru

01-06-2016 09:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash">#WhiteSox</a> would not go 4 years on Gordon, as <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale">@BNightengale</a> said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/684763829474037760">January 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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CaliforniaChief

01-06-2016 09:55 AM

We're a Chiefs playoff win away from another fantastic week for Kansas City fans. What a time to be alive.

MTG#10

01-06-2016 09:58 AM

What a great few months to be a KC sports fan! After all the suffering and ridicule we've had to endure there isn't a fan base more deserving, I don't care what anyone says. I have a very good feeling about Saturday and beyond!

DeepSouth

01-06-2016 10:06 AM

At this point, I don't care of they don't get another starting pitcher.

Volquez
Ventura
Duffy
Medlin
Young

If one gets hurt, throw Zimmer in there. Maybe the Royals can get some use out of him before he gets hurt again.

Discuss Thrower

01-06-2016 10:07 AM

**** the white Sox.

Chiefspants

01-06-2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12003233)

There we go. I thought you were marginalizing his 2011/2012 output with your previous postZ

I absolutely agree with the rest of your points.

C3HIEF3S

01-06-2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 12003268)

I'd like insurance on Medlen, Duffy, and Young. None of them are sure-things. Hell, neither is Ventura. One more pitcher would put us right where we need to be, IMO.

DeepSouth

01-06-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12003273)

I'd like insurance on Medlen, Duffy, and Young. Hell, neither is Ventura. None of them are sure-things. One more pitcher would put us right where we need to be, IMO.

Yeah, I know. You never know what's going to happen. But, what I don't want them to do is sign someone that will cause the Royals to lose their 1st round draft pick. They no longer have the sandwich pick.

Prison Bitch

01-06-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12003271)

There we go. I thought you were marginalizing his 2011/2012 output with your previous postZ

I absolutely agree with the rest of your points.

Steamer still likes him a lot, near 4 win protection (0 for Orlando). So now our team is up to 82 wins projected and we have 13M more to spend. Gallardo or Kennedy and you're pushing 85. That is in range already to win this sorry division, esp if you believe KC can keen exceeding the data projections.

Pitching is scary expensive now. We HAVE to hit on Zimmer or Almonte now. And soon.

BWillie

01-06-2016 10:16 AM

How did he not get 5 years from anyone?

Mr. Laz

01-06-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12003285)

How did he not get 5 years from anyone?

His bat
His health

Saul Good

01-06-2016 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12003212)

At 8.4/WAR, he needs to produce 8.5 WAR for the Royals to break even.

Not necessarily. If the $/WAR just went from 7 to 8.4, it could easily be 10-12 by the time his contract expires. If 10 is the average value over the life of this contract, 7.2 WAR is the break even. He could reasonably be expected to provide that in the next 2 seasons alone.

Fairplay

01-06-2016 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12003285)

How did he not get 5 years from anyone?

Either no one offered him that or if he did he didn't like the offer I'm guessing.

We don't know what went on behind the scenes with agents discussing their player. And maybe Gordon didn't want to go to certain teams either, always safer going to an organization you know.

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