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Why Not? 07-01-2018 12:40 AM

Weird and random baseball thing of the week....the Reds have a relief pitcher who has homered in his last 3 at bats, including 2 pinch hit homers(1 granny). Kinda cool

banecat 07-01-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13611954)
Prison? At age 15?

I read so many articles on the subject that I forgot that he was only fifteen. So prison jr. then for minors who commit heinous offenses. Not sure that it really matters much which one a pederass goes to or not. I can't imagine that he'd last long in any level in any correctional facility. Many of his fellow inmates would have younger sisters and younger nieces and know how to shank someone

Titty Meat 07-01-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13611901)
Good perspective on Heimlich and why Moore’s statements about him are careless and dangerous:

https://medium.com/@JulieDiCaro/luke...s-6c3a9ed25876

Moore needs to be fired

duncan_idaho 07-01-2018 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13611918)
This is rather suspicious. Families tend to know more about the situation than strangers.


It’s not suspicious. Our society has a tendency to blame female victims of sexual assaults. It’s normal. Especially when the accused is a good athlete. It’s a disgusting output of the patriarchal society in which we live.

The child’s father, Heimlich’s brother, filed the charges and refuses to have contact with him to this day. That can’t be obscured.

Did you get to the part of the piece where the author talks about what has to happen for charges to be filed?

It’s easy to chalk this up as a he-said, she-said, but that’s not how it actually works. There’s a lot more that has to be present for charges to file.

Great Expectations 07-01-2018 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13612009)
It’s not suspicious. Our society has a tendency to blame female victims of sexual assaults. It’s normal. Especially when the accused is a good athlete. It’s a disgusting output of the patriarchal society in which we live.

The child’s father, Heimlich’s brother, filed the charges and refuses to have contact with him to this day. That can’t be obscured.

Did you get to the part of the piece where the author talks about what has to happen for charges to be filed?

It’s easy to chalk this up as a he-said, she-said, but that’s not how it actually works. There’s a lot more that has to be present for charges to file.

There is a lot of conflicting information. I thought his uncle/girls dad wanted to speak with him, but he was refusing.

duncan_idaho 07-01-2018 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 13612013)
There is a lot of conflicting information. I thought his uncle/girls dad wanted to speak with him, but he was refusing.


His brother, you mean?

I saw that as well, but it was from an article written from Heimlich’s perspective, I think.

Bufkin 07-01-2018 08:57 AM

Prosecutors typically don’t file felony sex charges on accusations. In Southwest Missouri, law enforcement uses Kids Harbor to eliminate false testimony pretty quickly. While not unheard of, children under the age of 10 don’t have the imagination to present a sexual accusation that is both accurate and believable. Even the most coached kids are always weeded out by (in our case) Kids Harbor. Prosecutors rely heavily on those professional resources.

A police officer, prosecuting attorney, and judge all found at some point or another that there was probable cause that Heimlich molested a child. Probable cause requires facts or evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe that a suspect has committed a crime. An initial accusation may be grounds for reasonable suspicion, but not probable cause. And in response to that, Heimlich plead guilty.

If the Royals sign him, I’m done. The Royals have been such an important part of my life for 26 years, but that’s where I draw the line.

suzzer99 07-01-2018 09:34 AM

I'm curious how everyone would instead feel if the kid admitted doing it and seemed to showed a ton of sincere remorse?

I think I'd be a lot more sympathetic. At 13-14 your brain isn't close to formed yet. You're not the same person you're going to be as an adult by a long shot. Not that I'd ever let him near kids again. But I'd tend to want to give him a second chance at life.

WhawhaWhat 07-01-2018 10:04 AM

After his loss last night, Jason Hammel finished the month of June tied with the most losses in MLB at 5 losses. He is tied with Jake Junis.

Why Not? 07-01-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13611961)
I read so many articles on the subject that I forgot that he was only fifteen. So prison jr. then for minors who commit heinous offenses. Not sure that it really matters much which one a pederass goes to or not. I can't imagine that he'd last long in any level in any correctional facility. Many of his fellow inmates would have younger sisters and younger nieces and know how to shank someone

Yeah I figured. Just giving you shit.

Why Not? 07-01-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13612105)
After his loss last night, Jason Hammel finished the month of June tied with the most losses in MLB at 5 losses. He is tied with Jake Junis.

Bahahaha.

Al Bundy 07-01-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13612105)
After his loss last night, Jason Hammel finished the month of June tied with the most losses in MLB at 5 losses. He is tied with Jake Junis.

Also had this turd...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Worst hitting month in Royals history by OPS, min. 20 games started. <a href="https://t.co/I4Nb4ZRhA6">pic.twitter.com/I4Nb4ZRhA6</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1013274538275205122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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BryanBusby 07-01-2018 11:18 AM

I think people deserve a 2nd chance generally, but I really hesitate to keep that feeling if they won't even recognize what they had done was wrong and have zero ambitions to right it.

That's why I didn't really like Tyreek, as his draft interview with radio didn't have really any responsibility taken. Fortunately everything looks good on that front, but what a really bad first impression.

From what I've seen with this case, it's articles trying to whitewash something that was completely reprehensible and wonderful Mecca posts trying to pin the blame on a 5 year old.

Al Bundy 07-01-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13612174)
I think people deserve a 2nd chance generally, but I really hesitate to keep that feeling if they won't even recognize what they had done was wrong and have zero ambitions to right it.

That's why I didn't really like Tyreek, as his draft interview with radio didn't have really any responsibility taken. Fortunately everything looks good on that front, but what a really bad first impression.

From what I've seen with this case, it's articles trying to whitewash something that was completely reprehensible and wonderful Mecca posts trying to pin the blame on a 5 year old.

This is where I'm at. Take responsibility or have real proof you got a raw deal on something like this. I will say that I know that every day people are sent to jail for crap they didn't do, but this doesn't 100% feel like that.

Bowser 07-01-2018 11:21 AM

Well then.

Who is projecting as the top overall prospect for pitchers and power hitters in 2019? Because it looks like one of those will be coming to KC if this trend continues.


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