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vailpass 09-06-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9946317)
Yeah, if I'm a Donkey fan, I'm absolutely LOVING these moves!

LMAO Still, I don't see how you could have done better.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-06-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9946313)
That says a lot though doesn't it?

Qbs with tools go high, tannehill etc, yet geno and this class dropped like turds.

QBs are a supply-demand issue. If you have two QB-deep drafts in a row with a league that gives them 3+ years, logic dictates that it's likely they won't be snapped up as quickly.

It's not absolutely a dispositive statement about the quality of the class.

DeezNutz 09-06-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9946324)
Monetarily, the risk is lower.

Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9946322)
Signing Bray was throwing shit at a wall, hoping it stuck. It's not a bad plan, but it's not an especially viable one, nor one you should pot commit yourself to.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9946327)
Bringing in Bray would have been an intelligent move, even if the Chiefs had selected a QB anywhere in the draft.

Signing Daniel, however, wow. Dumb as ****ing shit.

Oh yes! Let's not forget THAT brilliant stroke of ****ing genius! God damn, Dane; let's get the mighty 411 on THAT sweet-assed move, patn'a!

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9946329)
Gabbert wouldn't have been a first rounder in the 2013 draft, but only because the post RGIII/Luck draft climate is so ****ing stupid.

You're ****ing stupid, regardless of the fact the Gabbert got two head coaches and a GM fired.

O.city 09-06-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9946333)
QBs are a supply-demand issue. If you have two QB-deep drafts in a row with a league that gives them 3+ years, logic dictates that it's likely they won't be snapped up as quickly.

It's not absolutely a dispositive statement about the quality of the class.

No, not necessarily, because the teams with the supply aren't the only teams that passed on these qbs.

There was definitely a demand on them, as there always is or will be with qbs at the top of the draft.

DeezNutz 09-06-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9946328)
No, the risk ISN'T lower.

GM's and head coaches are still at risk.

They have four years, MAX. If it doesn't turn around, they're gone.

But that's no different from taking any other approach. Alex Smith is a gutless ****ing moved, designed for nothing more than a CYA moment, assuming Reid and Dorsey have half a clue.

Given that the former is reportedly "in love" with Smith, though, we could be in deep ****ing shit.

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9946335)
Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.

It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-06-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9946329)
Gabbert wouldn't have been a first rounder in the 2013 draft, but only because the post RGIII/Luck draft climate is so ****ing stupid.

He most definitely would have. He won 10 games with skill position players far less talented than his successor had, who managed to win 8 and 5 games. He was a concussion away from a BCS game at Missouri. He's 6'5" with good mobility, top notch character, and a very strong arm.

He obviously had severe system issues and pocket presence problems, but there is no chance even the Chiefs would have passed on him at #1 overall last year. He was a superior prospect to Geno in every way.

Setsuna 09-06-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9946233)
Don't hate.

LMAO very well.

O.city 09-06-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9946335)
Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.

Ok, so this year is SB or bust?

DeezNutz 09-06-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9946341)
It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.

I thought the same thing with Quinn last year, but sometimes you have to flush even the double-tapered ones.

vailpass 09-06-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9946345)
LMAO very well.

Cheers.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9946341)
It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.

Wait, wait; are you REALLY trying to tell us that because Alex was a first rounder who has played long enough in this league to establish his mediocrity, that we should somehow throw a little money down on him in Vegas to win the Chiefs a Super Bowl?

Are you REALLY going this route?

Please think before replying.

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9946340)
But that's no different from taking any other approach. Alex Smith is a gutless ****ing moved, designed for nothing more than a CYA moment, assuming Reid and Dorsey have half a clue.

Given that the former is reportedly "in love" with Smith, though, we could be in deep ****ing shit.

I don't know what I can say to convince you.

Unless there's a "no-brainer", GM's and head coaches WILL NOT take a "chance" on a QB in the first round that needs to "sit" for a year.

This year alone, the Jets passed TWICE. The Cards, Jags, Chiefs and other QB needy teams passed.

Those days are over. LONG over.


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