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stevieray 01-24-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14046937)

...but of course.

....so toxic!

LMAO

Baby Lee 01-24-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

Speaking only for myself, it's no so much upset, as eyerolling at how this commercial appears on the surface to have one message, but betrays many others, and further reinforces subtle societal double standards.

The message is 'you're a man, you're powerful, but use it for good.'
It's a message of male supremacy, softened by advocating 'benign' male supremacy.
It points out faults in some men, and tells all men to be on guard for those faults in themselves. That is stereotyping.

Can you imagine a McDonalds commercial for black folk that had the message 'consider our salads, before you lose your foot to the sugar.'

Can you imagine a Tampax commercial for women gently reminding them that their menstual cycle can make them bitchy, so they need to keep mind to be extra nice sometimes.

Those are 'benign' messages simply urging people to behave better. But I don't think you would be as bemused by outrage in those situations.

But men are strong. Men are in charge. And that is as it should be. They can take condescension and chiding, not like the lesser and weaker genders and ethnicities.

The message is at cross purposes with itself, and it self-erases half of the stuff its preaching out the other side of its mouth. But even pointing out the inconsistency is considered gauche because the very social stratification they are tyrying to argue doesn't exist props up the message as beyond criticism.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14069204)
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Clearly the broad who make the Gillette chick flick hasn't been grabbed in the pussy and is feeling left out.

I'll consider giving the wench some consideration as soon as she has the draft rules modified to ensure being drafted is gender neutral, and combat deployment too. If she does that, then I might think she's serious, but I bet she wouldn't touch the subject, other then to say "get rid of the military", with a 10-foot metal coat hanger.

Saulbadguy 01-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069288)
What's so hard with understanding people don't like to be preached at by shitty commercials with political undertones? Sell me on your product, Gillette, don't try to sell me on how to be a "proper" man. I know the difference between right and wrong in spite of what the message of that commercial is saying. Pretty simple.

It's a commercial.

Bowser 01-24-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14069328)
It's a commercial.

Correct. But you asked.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:30 PM

What the broad who directed it needs, along with getting laid, is to understand that we need more women like this, who are healthy and not obese...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5268/5...ae294a6c_b.jpg

She's doing women no favors by telling them it's OK to be fat.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069288)
What's so hard with understanding people don't like to be preached at by shitty commercials with political undertones? Sell me on your product, Gillette, don't try to sell me on how to be a "proper" man. I know the difference between right and wrong in spite of what the message of that commercial is saying. Pretty simple.

I didn't like the ad because I thought the message was fine but the reliance on every possible stereotype was cringeworthy, especially when demonizing the wrong things only hurts not helps the feminist cause. But it's not like we got all riled up when a successful, smart woman was told she's not enough of a woman because she's 10 lbs overweight and doesn't dress slutty. So I kinda get the outrage on both sides.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14069349)
What the broad who directed it needs, along with getting laid, is to understand that we need more women like this, who are healthy and not obese...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5268/5...ae294a6c_b.jpg

She's doing women no favors by telling them it's OK to be fat.

Case in point

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14069415)
Case in point

More "points" (cases???) that were well made by Gillette... :D

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6205/6...08c2b9ee_b.jpg

eDave 01-24-2019 01:12 PM

4,16,7,1,12,14,3,8,6,13,9,11,2,5,10,13,15.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14069423)
More "points" (cases???) that were well made by Gillette... :D

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6205/6...08c2b9ee_b.jpg

Oh I'm more than good with how they use women in advertising. If you want to show me more of those just so I'm sure please do. My point is, if they want to tell women what makes them "perfect" based on a superficial standard, then it's a little silly for me to get riled up about being told I'm not a perfect man.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14069505)
4,16,7,1,12,14,3,8,6,13,9,11,2,5,10,13,15.

There's a 17th chick, between 13/14 and 15. Butt she's hiding, so she might be self-fat shaming...

Lzen 01-24-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

If you really want to know then watch this.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=205

Bowser 01-24-2019 01:41 PM

Give us your thoughts on this one, bowener. You too, Superchief….

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Lzen 01-24-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069625)
Give us your thoughts on this one, bowener. You too, Superchief….

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Woman explains to white men what is mainsplaining and to stop it. :rolleyes: Surely, she does not get irony. Or would hypocrisy be a better term to use here?


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